Oswalt to Phils? - ChopNation.com

quick · #1 07-29-2010, 11:02 AM

ESPN radio this morning said Oswalt to Phils is a done deal, pending Roy's consent to the trade. No word on who would be going the other way.

If true, this really, really sux....Why can't he go to the freaking Dodgers?; or the AL?

barvos4evr · #2 07-29-2010, 01:42 PM

I wouldn't sweat this that much, pitchers only make an impact every 5th day and Oswalt isn't the same guy he was 3 or 4 years ago... IMO, this maybe gives them 2 or 3 more wins at most...

Wahoo · #3 07-29-2010, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by barvos4evr

I wouldn't sweat this that much, pitchers only make an impact every 5th day and Oswalt isn't the same guy he was 3 or 4 years ago... IMO, this maybe gives them 2 or 3 more wins at most...

Yes, but you forget they have Utley waiting in the wings. I expect a nice late surge from them. They are dangerous, have more offensive depth than we do, and this really gives them depth where they needed it: innings out of the starting rotation.

they improved themselves. IMO, we haven't. I think this move definitely should give us a sense of urgency to make a move to improve our offense.

The Rap · #4 07-29-2010, 06:07 PM

It is a good addition for them but not on the level of either Halladay or Cliff Lee (since gone. Oswalt today doesnlt compare to Oswalt of a few years ago and even though they are waiting for Utley to return (probably weeks away) they also lost Victorino. Their main Achilles Heel is the bullpen anyway because no one knows what to expect from Lidge

BarveFanHawaii · #5 07-29-2010, 06:26 PM

Anyone who expected this to be a runaway division for the Braves probably was living in a complete dream world. I got confident, but always kept a wary eye on the Phils. I wrote off the Mets during their hot stretch because...well, it was exactly that, a hot stretch.

The Phillies are truly dangerous and they have just improved their chances to run us down in a massive way. Halladay/Hamels/Oswalt is a pretty formidable front 3 in their rotation and they do have Utley on the mend for one last bullet in the chamber to fire at us late in the year. Yes, they're still dealing with injury issues with Rollins' foot and Victorino's side...and they're also shaky at the back end of their bullpen, but something to keep in mind is that they have 2 more days to add depth there as well.

The Phillies will be around and they will give us a run for our money. Our responsibility is to (take my advice in a way) not be complacent. I have been slightly disappointed by Frank Wren's insistence that he feels confident in his internal replacements/upgrades. We have excellent depth and all...but not one that provides the boost a Willingham or a Hart (still don't like this option) or a darn good reliever would.

I'm still confident that we can stay ahead of the Phillies...but we should be keeping an eye on the rear view mirror right now with the other on the trade market. This team does need something. It's just Frank Wren's job to counter them and make their addition(s) moot.

sdp · #6 07-29-2010, 06:51 PM

Me last week: October baseball!

Me this week: when do pitchers and catchers report in 2011?

Dreamscape · #7 07-29-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp

Me last week: October baseball!

Me this week: when do pitchers and catchers report in 2011?

But we extended David Ross...that's like extending team chemistry. And that's really all a team needs to win. A bunch of guys who like one another.

slowride · #8 07-29-2010, 08:55 PM

"for left-handed starter J.A. Happ and two prospects, outfielder Anthony Gose and shortstop Jonathan Villar."

meh...I don't really care. All I know about Gose is he's very fast. I know nothing of villar.

Dreamscape · #9 07-29-2010, 08:57 PM

Well, they traded Gose for Brett Wallace from the Blue Jays to pick up Berkman's heir apparent.

slowride · #10 07-30-2010, 05:01 AM

They gave up prospects for lee. Then they let lee go and signed Halladay....who cares. They're both great. Now they let some prospects go for Oswalt...and give up Happ. Again, who cares? It's not like Happ was a bum. NL East pitching is beastly; but I don't think we're behind anyone. Obviously we don't have a halladay, but when considering one through five I still think we're the best rotation in the division.

Even October pitching....I guess I'll give the edge to the phills. I'm more concerned about their bats heating up, and the bats coming off injury.

Nice to see their farm system get weaker again though. They may become the yanks of the NL.