Gamethread: Atlanta Barves at LA Dodgers - June 3, 2010

[chicagobrave]

Good start to the game. Another good at bat for Prado. Someone pick up the RBI here.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Good job, Dream! What's a FIP?

[chicagobrave]

Come on Glaus. Now would be a great time for another HR.

[chicagobrave]

Braves up 1-0 on the single by Glaus.

[jlcct]

Good job, Dream! What's a FIP?

Go to the top and put your mouse on the pitching tab.
http://saberlibrary.com/pitching/

[Freddy_Ballgame]

"I love to see the team get the quick first inning run. After a cross-country hop it's good to get off to a fast start."
---Captain Obvious

[chicagobrave]

Nice defense from Yuni. Hope Medlen has a quick inning here.

[chicagobrave]

Has anyone heard any updates on JJ's injury?

[-Dr. Brave-]

Go Barves

[chicagobrave]

Ok, how did I suddenly start a new thread while replying to a thread?

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Go to the top and put your mouse on the pitching tab.
http://saberlibrary.com/pitching/

Gee, I ask a simple question and the guy tells me where to go......:D

Thanks, jlcct. It looks like another number someone "over-thought" on. If they want to get numbers that are so deep they have to consider each pitch in it's own unique circumstance. Sometimes, like bottom of the ninth, bases loaded with no one out, a strike out couldn't be more important. In an effort to just analyze the game to death there are too many variables to make some of these calculations better than other stats. They're all just supposition anyway. It is an interesting theory, I suppose....:headscratch:

[chicagobrave]

Has anyone head any updates about JJ?

[Hobbes]

Ok, how did I suddenly start a new thread while replying to a thread?
I moved the posts to a dedicated game thread.

[chicagobrave]

I moved the posts to a dedicated game thread.

Ok. I thought I did something goofy by accident.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

JJ? Kid DYN_O_MITE? He's working at Club Nowhere this weekend reprising his role from the 70's sitcom in his latest stand-up routine. This week, JJ goes gangsta....

[chicagobrave]

JJ? Kid DYN_O_MITE? He's working at Club Nowhere this weekend reprising his role from the 70's sitcom in his latest stand-up routine. This week, JJ goes gangsta....


JJ= Jair Jurrjens

[Freddy_Ballgame]

JJ= Jair Jurrjens

Uh, I'm aware of that, Chi....re-read my posting....it was a joke.....:no:

[-Dr. Brave-]

JJ= Jair Jurrjens

Best known for inventing Jurrjens hand lotion.

[chicagobrave]

Best known for inventing Jurrjens hand lotion.


Sorry I have some Vicodin in me tonight. I am a little out of it. I am actually sitting in bed with my lap top watching the game.

[jlcct]

Freddy, I linked you to that site because I hoped you would save it as a favorite so when ever you need a quick refresher you could go there. It's a good resource for explaining these stats to you in a thorough fashion. I remember asking what all sorts of stats meant and sometimes I'd forget and I felt bad about asking the same question a second or third time. Here's to hopin I was helpin.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Thanks. At one time we started a thread for all the stat-heads to discuss these things with us guys who aren't as familiar with them as they are. It went belly-up PDQ as I recall. I'll add this to my favorites when I'm at home. I'm online at work watching gamecast and ChopNation.

[chicagobrave]

Medlen is pitching well so far tonight. Time to for the offense to score some more runs.

[jlcct]

When you google Barves, Chopnation is the ninth link to appear :) and it's also not in the dictionary and has no wiki page.... yet.

[Hobbes]

Home run Glaus!

[chicagobrave]

Now 2-0 Braves. Hinske with the single to keep it going. Come on Yuni.

[-Dr. Brave-]

Sorry I have some Vicodin in me tonight. I am a little out of it. I am actually sitting in bed with my lap top watching the game.

http://www.roanokevalleyweather.com/posted/jergens.jpg

[chicagobrave]

http://www.roanokevalleyweather.com/posted/jergens.jpg

Lol. Having fun?

[Hobbes]

McLouth brings in another run. Nice.

[jlcct]

Jair "cuticle cream" Jurrjens. lol

[-Dr. Brave-]

Sorry I have some Vicodin in me tonight. I am a little out of it. I am actually sitting in bed with my lap top watching the game.

That's okay. I took mycoxafloppin and hope to be in bed soon myself.

[jlcct]

That's okay. I took mycoxafloppin and hope to be in bed soon myself.
Your what is what?

[chicagobrave]

Nice at bat for Nate. About time he got a hit and picked up an RBI. Another chance for Prado here.

[jlcct]

Bed is the only thing you'll be in.

[chicagobrave]

Another nice play by Yuni to end the inning.

[jlcct]

That was an efficient inning for Medlen. I'd like to see him make it through the seventh.

[chicagobrave]

Come on Yuni do something useful here.

[chicagobrave]

That was nice of Manny to give the Braves a run here.

[jlcct]

Medlen is going to hit a single. ....

[jlcct]

Ohh he doubles! KRISSSS!!!

[jlcct]

I'm watching this on Gameday. What happened with Manny?

[jlcct]

In case anyone cares, the Lakers and beating the Celtics by 11 with less than 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter.
I bet my boss 10 hours of my work at his house to 10 hours of work at my house. I took the Lakers.

[chicagobrave]

He over ran the ball. It should have been a routine out.

[jlcct]

He over ran the ball. It should have been a routine out.
That's typical Manny. He has some of the all time outfield screw ups.

[Hobbes]

Garrett "feet of stone" Anderson comes in to face his old team, but quietly flies out to left.

[chicagobrave]

That's typical Manny. He has some of the all time outfield screw ups.

It is funny to watch his mistakes since he is on another team.

[chicagobrave]

Their pitcher has a blister and leaves without even throwing a pitch in the game. Weaver got a blister warming up I guess.

[-Dr. Brave-]

He should have used Jurrjens' hand cream.

[jlcct]

Three pitches. Two outs. :)

[jlcct]

He should have used Jurrjens' hand cream.

lol

[Hobbes]

That was an efficient inning for Medlen. I'd like to see him make it through the seventh.

Your wish has been granted. A great outing from Medlen tonight.

[jlcct]

So that was a six pitch inning for a total of 83. Looks like Mr. Medlen will go 8.

[jlcct]

Your wish has been granted. A great outing from Medlen tonight.

And he's 1 for 2 at the plate. I'm predicting Medlen goes eight and 2 for 3 at the plate with a double and a single.

[Hobbes]

And he's 1 for 2 at the plate. I'm predicting Medlen goes eight and 2 for 3 at the plate with a double and a single.

He's not being lifted for a pinch-hitter, so it appears he'll be back out for the 8th.

[chicagobrave]

Good start to the inning. Good at bat for Yuni. Runner in scoring position. Nate moves the base runner over. Here is your chance to add a run Medlen.

[jlcct]

Good at bat for Yuni.

That's good to hear.

[Hobbes]

Time to pull Medlen. Bases loaded and one out.

Edit: and here comes Bobby.

[jlcct]

A double play would be nice right about now.

[Hobbes]

It would be a shame if those runs cross the plate, considering how well Medlen pitched through the first seven innings.

[jlcct]

This is his third turn through the rotation. He's sort of being thrown to the wolves right now.

[chicagobrave]

Hopefully the bullpen will do it's job tonight and keep the shut out intact.

[chicagobrave]

Will it be the good or the bad Moylan tonight?

[Hobbes]

Well that sucked. Excellent slide by DeWitt there to avoid McCann's tag.

[Agent-X-]

I've really gotta question Bobby Cox here. Why do you let the tying run come to the plate and THEN bring in Moylan? Sigh.

[chicagobrave]

I've really gotta question Bobby Cox here. Why do you let the tying run come to the plate and THEN bring in Moylan? Sigh.

I would guess because Moylan used to be good at pitching teams to hit into inning ending double plays.

[Hobbes]

Dodger have quickly cut the lead to one with the tying run at third.

Come on Moylan.

[Agent-X-]

True. True. Could have gotten that double play when there were two runners on. But I guess you give Medlen the opportunity to pitch his way through the 8th...

[jlcct]

This is the time that I wish we had Medlen in the bullpen.

[Hobbes]

Damn.

Moylan doesn't have it. Bring in O'Flaherty.

[Agent-X-]

This is the time that I wish we had Medlen in the bullpen.

Or why not send in the guys who shorten ballgames. This is a nail biter for sure... especially because we have soundly beaten the Dodgers here. Anything but a W after all this is just a crock.

[Hobbes]

And Bobby brings in the lefty.

It's a shame that all three of those runs will be charged to Medlen.

[-Dr. Brave-]

I've really gotta question Bobby Cox here. Why do you let the tying run come to the plate and THEN bring in Moylan? Sigh.

As well as Medlen has thrown tonight, I can understand why Cox waited. I could understand questioning his choice of relievers though, given how Moylan has thrown recently. Medlen only threw 96 pitches.

And the Dodgers weren't exactly crushing the ball either.

[jlcct]

It's to bad Cox said he was giving Wagner a night off. We need to stop this. Pull Moylan.

[chicagobrave]

Come on O'Flairity get a darn strike out and keep the lead here.

[Hobbes]

Yes!

Good job O'Flaherty.

[jlcct]

Thank You Eric.

[-Dr. Brave-]

It's to bad Cox said he was giving Wagner a night off. We need to stop this. Pull Moylan.

I'm hoping he's rethinking this. Do we want Saito facing his old team?

[-Dr. Brave-]

Wow, another pitch down the middle for a ball.

[jlcct]

Why bunt with two strikes. I don't understand that.

[chicagobrave]

That was a bad at bat for Omar. Saito is warming up to close tonight.

[Agent-X-]

We could really use some all-star production from McCann right now......

[jlcct]

Here we go. We've got to hold this. Let's go Barves

[jlcct]

2 down

[Hobbes]

Looks like Saito hurt himself.

[Hobbes]

And he's coming out of the game.

[chicagobrave]

Venters is coming in to finish the game.

[jlcct]

Anyone remember when Jurrjens will be back at the earliest?

[Hobbes]

Come on Venters, close this out.

[chicagobrave]

I read maybe by the end of the month some where.

[Agent-X-]

Did Saito's injury appear to be serious or was it just a precautionary removal?

[-Dr. Brave-]

Looks like Saito was just dealing with cramps.

Dodgers down to their final strike.

[-Dr. Brave-]

One-pitch save. :thumbsup:

[Hobbes]

He does it with one pitch.

Barves Win!!!

[Agent-X-]

BARVES WIN!!

[chicagobrave]

Nice 1 pitch save for Venters. Medlen deserved the win tonight. See you all tomorrow.

[Hobbes]

Time to hit the sack. It won't be fun getting up in a few hours to go to work.

[jlcct]

Pretty sure that was a one in a million one pitch save. Barves Win!

[-Dr. Brave-]

Braves now lead by 3 games over the idle Phillies.

I'm going to be tired at work tomorrow.

[Agent-X-]

Nail biters are always fun when your team wins! Hope Saito will be okay. Thank God we closed that one out and will have Wags for tomorrow night if we need him!

Buenas noches, Braves fans!

[Andy G.]

Well the Braves have a nine game winning streak to go with their nine game losing streak in April. This is the first time they've won that many in a row since 2000. How long can they keep it going?

Also, it might have been said earlier in the gamethread, but if Raul Ibanez didn't bring Glaus' homerun back from over the fence in the last game of that series, Troy Glaus would have five consecutive games with a homerun. Will he be on the All Star team?

I hope Saito only had cramps tonight. If he does have to go on the DL, I'd expect to see Kimbrel brought back up to the majors. I'm sure we'll see him pitching in Atlanta again this year regardless of any injuries that might happen. During the second half, I expect him to be one of our set-up men.

[jamminHANES]

If Saito is seriously hurt, Kimbrel will be recalled and there won't be much of a loss in terms of overall bullpen production. Kimbrel has started to figure his control out this year, he's going to be an incredible bullpen arm for years.

[bravos4evr]

Dang, I don't have any friggin fingernails left!!!! I think Saito is gonna be okay, as said before , it looked like cramps.(and I thought he was too old for that anymore.....)

[sdp]

In my non-expert opinion, it looked to me like a cramp or spasm of the hamstring. I don't think he strained it. I think he'll be fine with a few days rest, but may need to be disabled so we have arms available.

[bravos4evr]

In my non-expert opinion, it looked to me like a cramp or spasm of the hamstring. I don't think he strained it. I think he'll be fine with a few days rest, but may need to be disabled so we have arms available.

If he had really hurt it, I don't think he would have been squatting down and stretching it. More likely he would've done the tell tale grab behind the knee.

[Lauren T.]

Medlen only threw 96 pitches.
We're not talking about a regular starter here. He's a relief pitcher who was brought in to start. 96 pitches was probably his career high, by far.

[-Dr. Brave-]

We're not talking about a regular starter here. He's a relief pitcher who was brought in to start. 96 pitches was probably his career high, by far.

He has thrown 88, 90, 97, 89, and now 96 pitches in his 5 starts this season. The gametime temperature was 70 degrees (which probably felt cool to him compared to the East Coast), and he didn't have to throw many high-stress innings before the 8th. I still like Cox's decision to send him back out for the 8th inning.

[jlcct]

I was watching with Gameday but from what I could tell I liked that he was brought back out as well. Again it's real tough to even comment but judging by what I knew I might have given him a little shorter of a leash. ..What do I care, we won and I still trust Bobby despite his odd bullpen decisions in the past. Medlen did an awesome job and in general I'm happy with the way things went. We have 9 in a row! I couldn't be happier. When we eventually do lose it would be nice if we don't lose three or four in a row. I'm happy with two wins every series so this has been.... :thumbsup: nuff said.

[-Dr. Brave-]

The depth of our bullpen is becoming an issue too.