2009 NFL Thread

[Hobbes]

Take that Cowgirls.

Nice win from the G-Men.

[Wahoo]

Yup, the Chokeboys are living up to their December swoon, and as consistent with years past, the defense is the culprit. Thank god I had low expectations for this year, or else this one may have hurt, but alas I am acclimated to the chokefest in Big D. Just wish I could understand it. Granted the depth is an issue this year, but that isnt what has prevented them from winning this year (we've been mostly healthy).

[Dreamscape]

NFC East games are a little hard to understand in general, but a couple of tackles made and the Cowboys win this game or at least force overtime. It's another one of those "what could have been" games.

[The Rap]

Problem is that the Cowboys leave their fans wondering that nearly after every game played in December. Tough to figure out and I am a Giants fan but do have compassion for Cowboy fans because it is puzzling.

[Dreamscape]

It's not really puzzling to me. I don't sit here and think the past Decembers have any impact on the current December. I knew that would be the go-to line for the media, but their complaints typically are about Romo not playing well in December. That obviously wasn't the problem. Romo played great and was in control despite having no run game. The inability to tackle Jacobs and then the punt return and that shoddy tackling killed the Cowboys.

That said, this was a win the Cowboys needed and they really should have beat the Giants. But they didn't and now, they have the rough schedule the rest of the month. Chargers come into town next week. A loss there and the Cowboys probably need to win out to ensure a playoff spot against the Saints, Redskins, and Eagles.

[bravos4evr]

WOWWW!!!!! Man the heart attack Saints did it to me again!! They got sooooo lucky! But, hey championship quality teams find a way to win!
Off to Atlanta next!

[Andy G.]

The Falcons got killed by the Eagles, but they were missing five offensive starters(quarterback, running back, wide receiver, left tackle, right guard). We really never had a shot.

[Wahoo]

It's not really puzzling to me. I don't sit here and think the past Decembers have any impact on the current December. I knew that would be the go-to line for the media, but their complaints typically are about Romo not playing well in December. That obviously wasn't the problem. Romo played great and was in control despite having no run game. The inability to tackle Jacobs and then the punt return and that shoddy tackling killed the Cowboys.

That said, this was a win the Cowboys needed and they really should have beat the Giants. But they didn't and now, they have the rough schedule the rest of the month. Chargers come into town next week. A loss there and the Cowboys probably need to win out to ensure a playoff spot against the Saints, Redskins, and Eagles.

This defense folds when the cards are down everytime. People point to Romo, and he has had some December stinkers, but more often than not our defense has been equally abysmal. IMO, as a Cowboys fan, you might as well prepare for the fact that this team won't be making the playoffs. They won't beat the Eagles or the Saints, and the Chargers are a tough matchup. Judging by the way we played the 'Skins a couple of weeks ago, I could easily see this team finishing 8-8. At some point, I do think it will become a mental thing for many of these players. A good core of these players were present when these December slumps started under Parcells. Frankly, I just think this team is soft, and this particular set of players will never be able to perform at a high level when it counts. Stick a fork in this team, because they are done.

[The Rap]

I think things will look up for the Cowboys beginning next year when they have a new coach. They also would do themselves a favor and bring in Charley Weiss as OC.

[Agent-X-]

Sounds like an upside down week for everybody.

The Dolphins beat the Patriots. Go figure... Chad Henne had a good game. I just don't understand why this team borders on being putrid at times. We have so-so wide receivers, but when the ball is put in Henne's hands to win a game, a guy like Bess can turn in a good game (10 rec, 110 yds). Against the Bills last week? That was no where to be seen.

I suppose this happens to even the best teams. With the Fins, I have to wonder if the OC couldn't call better games. The way I figure it, the Patriots could make our wide receivers pretty good. They put together some quality offensive game plans.

Oh well. Miami has a long road to walk to get into the playoff picture, and I'm not holding my breath. :)

[Dreamscape]

This defense folds when the cards are down everytime. People point to Romo, and he has had some December stinkers, but more often than not our defense has been equally abysmal. IMO, as a Cowboys fan, you might as well prepare for the fact that this team won't be making the playoffs. They won't beat the Eagles or the Saints, and the Chargers are a tough matchup. Judging by the way we played the 'Skins a couple of weeks ago, I could easily see this team finishing 8-8. At some point, I do think it will become a mental thing for many of these players. A good core of these players were present when these December slumps started under Parcells. Frankly, I just think this team is soft, and this particular set of players will never be able to perform at a high level when it counts. Stick a fork in this team, because they are done.
See, I don't think it's impossible for the Braves to finish 3-1 and 11-5, taking the NFC East. They have already beat the Eagles in Philly and can do it again. Philly is hardly a world beater (see Oakland). The Skins played the Saints well and have a good defense, but there is a reason they are 3-6. The Chargers will be a tough matchup, but this game is fortunately in Dallas and I think the Cowboys have a good chance to take this, though it would not surprise me to see them lose either. The Saints are nearly impossible to beat in New Orleans, but they will probably lose at some point and why not to Dallas, the best team remaining on their schedule?

Even finishing 10-6 will be enough to make it to the playoffs, especially if those wins come against the Eagles and Deadskins. The Cowboys need the Giants to fall to an NFC East team (Philly next week or Washington the following) and the Cowboys need to beat Philly.

Beyond that, the Cowboys' chances in the playoffs would look bleak, but if they do finish with at least three more wins, they would be a hot team and possibly capable of a Cardinals run to the Super Bowl.

All that said...I hope Flozell is cut after the season. That cheap shot on Tuck was embarrassing.

[luvdembravos]

See, I don't think it's impossible for the Braves to finish 3-1 and 11-5, taking the NFC East.

LOL. You confused the good guys (Braves) with the bad guys.

[Wahoo]

See, I don't think it's impossible for the Braves to finish 3-1 and 11-5, taking the NFC East. They have already beat the Eagles in Philly and can do it again. Philly is hardly a world beater (see Oakland). The Skins played the Saints well and have a good defense, but there is a reason they are 3-6. The Chargers will be a tough matchup, but this game is fortunately in Dallas and I think the Cowboys have a good chance to take this, though it would not surprise me to see them lose either. The Saints are nearly impossible to beat in New Orleans, but they will probably lose at some point and why not to Dallas, the best team remaining on their schedule?

Even finishing 10-6 will be enough to make it to the playoffs, especially if those wins come against the Eagles and Deadskins. The Cowboys need the Giants to fall to an NFC East team (Philly next week or Washington the following) and the Cowboys need to beat Philly.

Beyond that, the Cowboys' chances in the playoffs would look bleak, but if they do finish with at least three more wins, they would be a hot team and possibly capable of a Cardinals run to the Super Bowl.

All that said...I hope Flozell is cut after the season. That cheap shot on Tuck was embarrassing.


Well that would mean Doug Free is our starting left tackle next year. That is frightening. I do think all of the games are winnable but I am almost certain that we will lose them, however, Philly (opposite to us) plays well in December so I expect them to make a strong push. I don't think there is a game on the remaining schedule that I am ready to put in the W column (including the Redskins).

[Dreamscape]

LOL. You confused the good guys (Braves) with the bad guys.
Eight straight days at work has left me a little...confused.

That said, I think the Cowboys can beat the Mets.

[Hobbes]

That said, I think the Cowboys can beat the Mets.
Only if they're playing baseball.

[Andy G.]

It's really hard to beat the Saints.

It's really, really hard to beat the Saints when you're missing your starting quarterback and your starting running back.

It's really, really, really hard to beat the Saints when you're missing your starting quarterback and your starting running back and the referees are giving them a touchdown.

[Wahoo]

Mark my words: The New Orleans saints will not make it to the super bowl. Just remember that you heard it here first.

[Devil Wears Prado]

WOWWW!!!!! Man the heart attack Saints did it to me again!! They got sooooo lucky! But, hey championship quality teams find a way to win!
Off to Atlanta next!

I was not impressed with NO. The Falcons were down 5 starters, and they still gave up 23 points. I don't think the Saints will do much in the playoffs.

[Middle Man]

Only if they're playing baseball.

Wow! The best slam of the year and I missed it. A rare double slam in only 5 words - against two of the most unlikeable sports teams in America. Oh well, it was almost as good one week later.

[Hobbes]

Wow! The best slam of the year and I missed it. A rare double slam in only 5 words - against two of the most unlikeable sports teams in America. Oh well, it was almost as good one week later.
I'm glad somebody appreciated it. :)

[Agent-X-]

It's really hard to beat the Saints.

It's really, really hard to beat the Saints when you're missing your starting quarterback and your starting running back.

It's really, really, really hard to beat the Saints when you're missing your starting quarterback and your starting running back and the referees are giving them a touchdown.

Welcome to how I feel about the Saints.

Hurts to see the refs giving touchdowns to the Saints, doesn't it?

This is precisely what has me so infuriated about the Dolphins-Saints game.

The Saints are good. They have also been extremely fortunate with these bad calls. They are not the best team in the NFL. I think there is another team who has their number easily, and they're also undefeated...

What is my logic? Just try to stop them from rolling into the end zone toward the end of the game. No one has stopped them yet.

[bravos4evr]

I was not impressed with NO. The Falcons were down 5 starters, and they still gave up 23 points. I don't think the Saints will do much in the playoffs.

We are down our starting two db's ( who were doing a great job before they went down) and the biggest drop off in performance quality on defense is defensive backs, backups usually stink.

We beat the snot out of the Patriots and everybody says it's cuz the Patriots stink, we squeak by Atl and it's because we stink!!!! This team has a problem getting up against the lower level teams, but they don't appear to have a problem getting up for the big games!!!!

IMO, when we get Greer and Porter back ( which will be right before the playoffs) you are going to see this teams defense come back to life!

Plus, our offense is freaking amazing!

[bravos4evr]

Welcome to how I feel about the Saints.

Hurts to see the refs giving touchdowns to the Saints, doesn't it?

This is precisely what has me so infuriated about the Dolphins-Saints game.

The Saints are good. They have also been extremely fortunate with these bad calls. They are not the best team in the NFL. I think there is another team who has their number easily, and they're also undefeated...

What is my logic? Just try to stop them from rolling into the end zone toward the end of the game. No one has stopped them yet.

Omg lewt it go already we beat the bejeezus out of you because your defense didn't make adjustments.


I have no idea what gilley is talking about regarding giving us a TD?

[Andy G.]

I have no idea what gilley is talking about regarding giving us a TD?
Brent Grimes' interception. He got called for pass interference, and there was absolutely now way to justify the call. The receiver ran a go route, Grimes was running with him to the inside, the ball was underthrown, and Grimes made the catch. Instead of the Falcons getting the ball, the Saints got the ball deep in the red zone and eventually scored.

I'm not saying the Falcons would have won without that call or that the Saints were given a cheap win. I made that post immediately after the play. I still believe that it should have been the Falcons' ball rather than the Saints' ball in the red zone, but I was mostly venting.

That said, I don't think the Saints are as great as they appear to be. They're very good, one of the best in the leauge, but I think it's a fluke that they're 13-0. This perception that they're such an amazing team, head and shoulders above the rest of the NFC, would not exist if not for a few lucky breaks.

I'm happy for you though, bravos. I can't imagine how much fun it is for you to watch the Saints right now.

[Agent-X-]

Omg lewt it go already we beat the bejeezus out of you because your defense didn't make adjustments.


I have no idea what gilley is talking about regarding giving us a TD?

Beat the bejeezus out of us? Don't make me laugh. So far, it looks like we're one of a few teams who have your number. ;)

I second Andy's sentiments. Saints are a great team. I'll always be sore over those calls, though. They did change the flow of the game as much as "your defense didn't make adjustments" did. I recognize Miami came up short in a few facets of that game... but with only minutes left in the game, Miami still had the lead so they must have done something right.

Face it. There were about three big blown calls that would sink just about anyone's ship in an effort to win a game.

[The Rap]

Lest we forget that the Saints are 13-0 and games become increasingly more difficult the closer you come to going undefeated for the season.

[JanShan12]

How 'bout them Cowboys!?! What a great game! Romo made smart decisions and the defense came up huge! Ware played on a limited basis, but made huge plays (2 FF). Spencer also with 2 sacks. A very fun game to watch!

[bravos4evr]

Good lord the saints looked like crap in the first half( again). Still almost pulled it out tho. IMO, this is prolly a good thing to happen to this team, might kick them in the pants and wake them up a little bit.

[Dreamscape]

Great game for the Cowboys. Romo has continued to look just incredible over the last month and the running game kept the pass rush off him. Barber looked more like the "run-you-over" back he came into the league as. Impressed with the defense. Aside from a play here and a play there, they kept the Saints running attack a non-factor and Brees was hitting the deck every other play. The Cowboys played like a team that was desperate for a win.

10 different Cowboys caught a pass in the game. Pretty good job spreading the ball around.

Roy Williams still dropped a first down pass and Folk missed a chipshot field goal so there are things that need to be resolved before next week. The Redskins are going to be very hyped up. Cowboys can't have a fallback game. Would be really nice if the Skins did the Boys a favor and dropped the Giants on Monday night.

[Wahoo]

Great game for the Cowboys. Romo has continued to look just incredible over the last month and the running game kept the pass rush off him. Barber looked more like the "run-you-over" back he came into the league as. Impressed with the defense. Aside from a play here and a play there, they kept the Saints running attack a non-factor and Brees was hitting the deck every other play. The Cowboys played like a team that was desperate for a win.

10 different Cowboys caught a pass in the game. Pretty good job spreading the ball around.

Roy Williams still dropped a first down pass and Folk missed a chipshot field goal so there are things that need to be resolved before next week. The Redskins are going to be very hyped up. Cowboys can't have a fallback game. Would be really nice if the Skins did the Boys a favor and dropped the Giants on Monday night.


They followed the playbook, just as I thought: Don't turn the ball over and control the clock and the saints can be beaten. Their defense is very vulnerable when it doesn't produce turnovers.

[The Rap]

Good game and like bravo4ever said maybe good for the Saints that they lost. It gives them plenty of time to fix anything wrong.

[Wahoo]

Good game and like bravo4ever said maybe good for the Saints that they lost. It gives them plenty of time to fix anything wrong.

IMO, they can't fix what ails them. Their corners blow. Any decent offense that can avoid giving them turnovers (usually from their safeties), it's very easy to move the ball on them. Usually, either they jump out to big league which enables them to blitz and/or double cover, but I really think the key is avoiding turnovers. I think they are what really fuel that team. It gives their potent offense extra possessions, which enables them to build a lead and forces the opposing teams to become one-dimensional. I think they have a powerful offense, however, I question whether they are balanced enough to make it through the NFC bracket.

[The Rap]

I am not saying they are a super team or whatever but their offense is certainly premier and the defense isnlt that bad because of the Defensive Coordinator they picked up before the season.

[Dreamscape]

Suisham for Folk...

What, was Morton Anderson busy?

[Wahoo]

Suisham for Folk...

What, was Morton Anderson busy?


Jerry is an idiot.

[bravos4evr]

IMO, they can't fix what ails them. Their corners blow. Any decent offense that can avoid giving them turnovers (usually from their safeties), it's very easy to move the ball on them. Usually, either they jump out to big league which enables them to blitz and/or double cover, but I really think the key is avoiding turnovers. I think they are what really fuel that team. It gives their potent offense extra possessions, which enables them to build a lead and forces the opposing teams to become one-dimensional. I think they have a powerful offense, however, I question whether they are balanced enough to make it through the NFC bracket.

When we had Greer, Porter Ellis and Fujita all healthy our defense was very good. problem is we havn't had them all healthy for awhile. The good thing is we should have most of them back for the playoffs! :-)

[The Rap]

Owners and coaches have no patience with kickers IMO. God forbid you hit a slump because you will be gone. I think replacing Folk with Suisham will come back and haunt the Cowboys. Like Dream said; stupid move.

[The Rap]

If you are a Giants fan like I am then you have to be pissed off because this team basically laid down this afternoon with everything on the line. What a disgraceful effort.

[Hobbes]

If you are a Giants fan like I am then you have to be pissed off because this team basically laid down this afternoon with everything on the line. What a disgraceful effort.
Yep. Pathetic.

[The Rap]

I would love to blame someone but wouldn't even know where to begin. Still it will all fall into Coughlin's lap as he is the coach.

[Dreamscape]

Hey idiot (Jason Garrett), either sneak it or run a playaction on 4th and inches. Stop trying to give the game to the Redskins. Barber and this line have consistently been unable to get the toughest yard.

[Agent-X-]

Well, doesn't sound like hardly anyone on here is all that happy... guess it pays to be indifferent when you know your team has basically mailed it in.

Congrats BFH on the Texans victory. I only wish the Phins could have given you a better fight. :)

[The Rap]

Thank you Phins because now the Jets have a chance.

[Dreamscape]

Well, doesn't sound like hardly anyone on here is all that happy... guess it pays to be indifferent when you know your team has basically mailed it in.

Congrats BFH on the Texans victory. I only wish the Phins could have given you a better fight. :)
Hey, I'm happy! My Cowboys are in the playoffs and with a chance to take the division. But it worries me that Jason Garrett and Co. continue to go with the same plays that simply aren't working. I am far more confident with Romo on a playaction bootleg on 3rd or 4th and short than I am with him handing the ball off to Barber to get that one yard (or, two inches).

The Cowboys can be dangerous, but they need some tinkering before Sunday if they want to be one of the toughest teams to beat.

All that said, the Redskins failed to score a touchdown against the Cowboys this season for the first time since they started to meet twice a year. And considering the girlfriend is a Redskins fan, I have so much to hold over her.

[Wahoo]

If I am the Cowboys, I mail it in this sunday. Hell, don't even show up to play, or if you do, play no higher than the 2nd string. There is nothing to be gained (imo) in winning the division and beating the Eagles. This team plays better on the road (at least this year), so I think we should let our guys rest and prepare for the playoffs.

[Dreamscape]

If I am the Cowboys, I mail it in this sunday. Hell, don't even show up to play, or if you do, play no higher than the 2nd string. There is nothing to be gained (imo) in winning the division and beating the Eagles. This team plays better on the road (at least this year), so I think we should let our guys rest and prepare for the playoffs.
Disagree completely. For once, the Cowboys seem to actually believe in themselves and go out there and physically take it to the other team. There is a lot to be gained for continuing with this momentum and not taking the foot of the gas pedal. Teams that try to stay healthy end up losing. You can't expect this team to suddenly turn the fire back on once the playoffs hit.

[bravos4evr]

Man was I the biggest Bears fan evah last night!!!!!

Post game they went over all the scenarios for the nfc seedings...... I think it would be easier to try and predict the lottery!

IMO tho, it's gonna be Eagles#2 , Vikings#3, Arizona #4, Green Bay #5 and Dallas #6

That would make it Dallas at Vikings and Green Bay at Arizona. I predict then that Vikings beat Dallas and Arizona beats Green Bay which would make it Vikings at Eagles and Arizona at New Orleans. IMO that leads to a Eagles at New Orleans rematch for the NFC champ game.

The AFC is such a flustercluck that I dare not even attempt to predict it!

[Agent-X-]

I'll go ahead and go out on that limb. Arizona takes care of New Orleans... :)

[bravos4evr]

Nope, we matchup well with them as long as Greer and Ellis and Porter and Sharper are healthy. They aren't going ot be able to stop our offense and I think (if our defense is back healthy) we should be able to stop them enough to win.

[Agent-X-]

Honestly, I can see that being the case. New Orleans should win against Arizona.

Still, I'll go out on that limb just for fun. I'm sure many didn't expect to see Arizona in the Super Bowl last year. So... with tongue in cheek, it would not surprise me if they rose to the occasion again.

And furthermore, I won't be that surprised if neither the Saints nor the Colts were in the Super Bowl. I'd love it if they did duke it out there, though. Just not holding my breath... too much parity goes on in this sport to think either team would win out from here on.

[Wahoo]

I actually agree with you on this, as long as Arizona doesnt turn the ball over, they have the firepower to beat the saints.

Crossing my fingers but this Cowboys squad is actually showing me some moxy. Maybe we will win a playoff game this year maybe. Our defense is easily playing the best of all the NFC teams and so is our QB (knocks on wood a thousand times).

[The Rap]

Problem is that Arizona's running attack is not too hot.

[Wahoo]

Boy, the Giants sure have mailed it in today.

[Hobbes]

Boy, the Giants sure have mailed it in today.
It's pathetic, especially after last week. I'm embarrassed to call myself a Giants fan.

[The Rap]

Well I have been a Giants fan since the late 50's and have even worked with them and been friends with somne of the players. But I can tell you that you guys are right but I am not embarrasssed because I am not playing, they are, so leave that emotioin for them. It does portend for a very interesting offseason. I think Coughlin is still safe but his assistant coaches might be in deep sht, especially the DC.

[The Rap]

Well the Jets are my other team and I will be pulling like hell for them. I don't know if Carson Palmer is playing tonight.

[The Rap]

Man, Dream must be having an orgasm with the Cowboys game today! Congrats because they look awesome.

[CanadaBravesFan]

My Phins are out, so my interest has just gone down 85%. Good year considering the injuries, just wished they could have held on longer.

[The Rap]

Well you have to give kudos to Big Ben because that was one of the gutsiest performances I've seen.

[Andy G.]

The Falcons finished with a winning record for the second straight season. Finally. I won't have to hear about that streak anymore.

The Falcons caught pretty much every break imaginable last year, and didn't catch very many this year. They're a good team, but not as good as I had thought early in the season. The talent isn't quite there on defense. They're still very much on the rise, so that's exciting.

[bravos4evr]

What about 3 re-matches in the playoffs? I don't know the last time that happened gonna be weird!

[Middle Man]

The day's most important news? Redskin One flew from DC to Colorado today. :rolleyes:

[The Rap]

Tell you the truth but I am turned off by all the rematches and wish they had a system that avoiuded that.

[luvdembravos]

The day's most important news? Redskin One flew from DC to Colorado today. :rolleyes:


Seventh coach in the past 11 years ... now that's the way to run a NFL franchise! :rolleyes:

BTW, what's the chance Shanahan (if hired) will last 2 or more years?

[The Rap]

Depends on the amount of power Mike is given. He might stay for 5.

[bravos4evr]

anyone wanna take a guess on the upcoming wildcard round results?


Green Bay over Arizona

Eagles over Cowboys ( I know they beat them twice already but it's so hard to beat a team 3 times).

Ravens over Patriots(no welker...nuff said)

Jets over Bengals ( granted who knows if Cincinatti was running plays designed to disguise what they planned to do in the rematch, but man did they look terrible)

next round:

Saints over Eagles

Vikings over Green Bay(in a close one)

Colts over Jets

Chargers over Ravens

champ games:

Vikings over Saints ( I want the Saints to win so bad...but , unless they play like they did early in the year they ain't beating the Vikings!)

Chargers over Colts ( I just don't see anyone beating them in the playoffs)

supah bowl

Chargers over Vikings

[The Rap]

I basically agree with your entire format which seems weird doesn't it? LOL The Cardinals worry me though.

[bravos4evr]

Yeah.... I dunno , they looked really bad against Green Bay and unless it's the same kinda deal I discussed with the Bengals( phoning it in so as to not give them any extra tape to view for the playoff game) then I just don't see them playing a whole lot better.... The games I think I'm most likely to get wrong are the Packers/Cards, and Jets/Bengals...... tough to call those two cuz the last games were such blowouts.

[The Rap]

I made my comment based on an interview I heard today with one of the Cardinals star defensive players and he was describing their thinking going into the game.

[Wahoo]

Gotta admit, as a Cowboys fan, I'm a little offended that after beating the Eagles' twice this year and after being the absolute snot out of them last week that most people are still picking against us. Having said that, I fear these people may be right.

[The Rap]

C'mon, the talk is due to the accepted thesis that you don't beat a team three times in one season. That's all it is so we will see if that is true very soon.

[Middle Man]

Skins sign Shanahan!! Yaaahooooo! The season's not even over yet and the Skins have already got a huuuuge lead in the off-season superbowl. You suckers will never catch up! Victory is ours!!


Post Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/05/AR2010010503717.html?hpid=artslot)

"...Former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan reached agreement with the Washington Redskins Tuesday night to become the team's next head coach and vice president of football operations, ..."

[Dreamscape]

C'mon, the talk is due to the accepted thesis that you don't beat a team three times in one season. That's all it is so we will see if that is true very soon.
Of course, more times than not, the team wins that third game than loses it.

[Wahoo]

Skins sign Shanahan!! Yaaahooooo! The season's not even over yet and the Skins have already got a huuuuge lead in the off-season superbowl. You suckers will never catch up! Victory is ours!!


Post Link (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/05/AR2010010503717.html?hpid=artslot)

"...Former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan reached agreement with the Washington Redskins Tuesday night to become the team's next head coach and vice president of football operations, ..."


Now all you have to do is ressurect John Elway, and you'll have yourself a helluva a coach. I just hope for your sake that you don't dispose of Jason Campbell.

[Middle Man]

Now all you have to do is ressurect John Elway, and you'll have yourself a helluva a coach. I just hope for my Cowboys' sake that you don't dispose of Jason Campbell.

Ha, fixed that for you to help you express your true thoughts.

Seriously though, I still think Campbell could be pretty good in D.C. with the right coach and an offensive line, but we may never know.

Shanahan is a fool if he drafts a "franchise QB" with the #4 pick. The Skins aren't a player or two away from being competitive. He needs to do whatever is possible to fix the OL and focus more on QBs and RBs next year, IMO.

Portis has one year left on his contract. He's not the answer, but they may as well keep him for one more year unless someone makes a stupid offer for him. And Campbell may not be the answer either, but it would be stupid to put a rookie QB back there without a half decent OL.

[luvdembravos]

And Campbell may not be the answer either, but it would be stupid to put a rookie QB back there without a half decent OL.

It's stupid to put any QB on the field without a decent line but for some strange reason, the Skins haven't learned that lesson.

[The Rap]

I am not a Redskins fan but know they tookn a huge step forward today simpoky because in the long run Shanahan is a great coach. Things should be giddy in our nation's capital tonight.

[Wahoo]

Ha, fixed that for you to help you express your true thoughts.

Seriously though, I still think Campbell could be pretty good in D.C. with the right coach and an offensive line, but we may never know.

Shanahan is a fool if he drafts a "franchise QB" with the #4 pick. The Skins aren't a player or two away from being competitive. He needs to do whatever is possible to fix the OL and focus more on QBs and RBs next year, IMO.

Portis has one year left on his contract. He's not the answer, but they may as well keep him for one more year unless someone makes a stupid offer for him. And Campbell may not be the answer either, but it would be stupid to put a rookie QB back there without a half decent OL.


Campbell has a career completion % of 61 and has more TDs than picks. If he ever got any time to throw, and has decent skill players he'd be a pro-bowler. If they let him go, they are morons. Frankly, I think throwing all that money at shanahan is stupid. A "name" coach doesn't mean jack in the NFL. But this is a typical move they make. I think he will turn the team around, but I don't expect the team to excel. I think he'll make the changes on the O-line that is necessary in DC, but I'll be shocked if you're good enough to for him to last all 5 years. I mean just look at all the stupid moves he's made in recent years, and you gave him final say on all personnel decisions? Nevermind the fact that he hasn't advance in the playoffs outside of the John Elway years. There had to a cheaper, higher upside option out there.

[luvdembravos]

There had to a cheaper, higher upside option out there.

Daniel Snyder tried the cheaper, higher upside option two years ago and we know how well that worked out. Consequently, Snyder went back to his previous (failed) strategy of bringing in the "big name" coach. Can't wait to see how this will end but it will end badly that's for sure.

But at least they have a qualified GM now and that should help them with future drafts ... something the previous GM screwed-up big time.

[Dreamscape]

But at least they have a qualified GM now and that should help them with future drafts ... something the previous GM screwed-up big time.
Well, isn't that part of Snyder's problem to basically throw away the draft for the big name right now? Or was that a GM fault?

[luvdembravos]

Well, isn't that part of Snyder's problem to basically throw away the draft for the big name right now? Or was that a GM fault?

It was Vinny Cerrato's fault for being a big-time "yes man" to Snyder ... sometimes the emperor needs to be told he has no clothes.

[Wahoo]

My quick thoughts: Zorn was brought into a no-win situation. It was obvious both before and during his tenure that he was not ready to be a head coach. It was a bad hire, but no coach was going to succeed with Cerrato at the helm.

The first smart move that Snyder has made was getting rid of Cerrato, however, why bring in a guy like Bruce Allen if you are going to end up giving most of his responsibilities to the head coach? That doesn't make much sense to me.

Also, IMO, Shanahan as a coach is better than Shanahan as a GM. This guy wasted a ton of Denver's money and draft picks on the likes of Jake Plummer, whoever the hell QB was before Plummer, Maurice freakin' Clarett. IMO, this hire would be better if he was just the coach, but IMO he has a pretty tenuous history as a GM, and a propensity for making the exact kind of moves that have bitten the Redskins in the past.

[Hobbes]

Looks like the Cowboys are finally going to win a playoff game.

[The Rap]

Well it is easier to look at the outcomes of signings well after they wewre made. Clarett didn't cost the Broncos that much and if it did work he might have had a huge upside. And Jake Plummer was highly rated so that wasnt a bad signing. In fact there were hot rumors that he was coming back the year after he retired. Busts are more of the Ryan Leaf category or the Lawrence Phillips saga. I think the latter just got sentenced to an awful lot of years behind bars for something really bad like rape or something.

[Dreamscape]

Looks like the Cowboys are finally going to win a playoff game.
Great on more than one level. Obviously, it's great to advance. Obviously, it's great to get the 1996 monkey off our back...and get Wade Phillips a playoff win...and get Tony Romo a playoff win...

But it's also great that Philly can't try to excuse how they lost last week because they didn't really care that much. They got stomped in back-to-back weeks and last night could have been an even bigger blowout had the Cowboys just got out of their own way in the first quarter. But I'm extremely happy for the Cowboys.

Now, will we witness Brett Farve Postseason Meltdown v.3.0? (two meltdowns stand out...may have been more)

[Hobbes]

It was great to see the hated Eagles lose in such a dreadful fashion. There is no way for the fans and commentators around here to put a positive spin on it. They looked awful.

Of course, I hate the Cowboys almost as much as the Eagles, so I'll be rooting for them to suffer a similar defeat in the next game. :D

[luvdembravos]

I hate to say it - and I REALLY DO hate to say it - but I believe the Cowboys will be in the Super Bowl this year.

[Wahoo]

Well it is easier to look at the outcomes of signings well after they wewre made. Clarett didn't cost the Broncos that much and if it did work he might have had a huge upside. And Jake Plummer was highly rated so that wasnt a bad signing. In fact there were hot rumors that he was coming back the year after he retired. Busts are more of the Ryan Leaf category or the Lawrence Phillips saga. I think the latter just got sentenced to an awful lot of years behind bars for something really bad like rape or something.

They spent a 3rd or 4th round draft pick on him. In today's NFL, that is a steep price.

[The Rap]

Yea but I think he was a sophomore and considered to have a great future. Bottom line is you win some and lose some.

[Hobbes]

None of the playoff games this weekend have been compelling. The closest thing to an interesting game was the Jets-Bengals.

[Dreamscape]

None of the playoff games this weekend have been compelling. The closest thing to an interesting game was the Jets-Bengals.
I dunno, Cowboys/Eagles was interesting to me.

:D

[Hobbes]

Well it looked like a blowout, but the Packers have made this game interesting.

[jamminHANES]

Such a tough loss as a Packers fan...

[The Rap]

I love Aaron Rodgers but couldnlt care less because the Packer defense sucked all day.

[Hobbes]

I love Aaron Rodgers but couldnlt care less because the Packer defense sucked all day.
Both defenses sucked.

The way each offense was going I thought for sure that whoever won the toss in overtime would win. The turnover for a touchdown seemed almost anticlimactic.

[The Rap]

But the Packers defense ranked 2nd in the league this year.

[JanShan12]

But the Packers defense ranked 2nd in the league this year.

Couldn't tell that today!


The Cowboys are hot right now! Their defense is fun to watch and my favorite, Felix Jones, was unstoppable.

I am concerned with Marion Barber not returning after the 1st quarter, but we'll see as the week goes on. They could have just kept the hot hand in and chose to get Barber some extra rest. We'll see...

[jamminHANES]

Atari Bigby getting hurt killed the Pack in the second half. He's been so under-rated in coverage and run support this year. Giordano was late all the time, we didn't blitz enough to get pressure and we had no slot coverage because two of our top four corners are on IR. Jarrett Bush is a joke.

[bravos4evr]

That game was one of the most fun to watch ever! What a crazy game! It reminded me of those old Bills, niners games of the mid 80's. Last team to get the ball wins!

As a Saints fan , I was rooting for the Cards as i think that the Saints match up with them better. I still imagine that the upcoming game will be pretty much a repeat of that one! 52-49 in OT is my prediction! (watch it will end up being a ball control matchup with a final score of 17-14.... :-) )

[Hillbilly]

Couldn't tell that today!


The Cowboys are hot right now! Their defense is fun to watch and my favorite, Felix Jones, was unstoppable.

I am concerned with Marion Barber not returning after the 1st quarter, but we'll see as the week goes on. They could have just kept the hot hand in and chose to get Barber some extra rest. We'll see...

I don't dislike Pro football, but I don't get excited about it. However, it was nice to see Felix bust out with a nice game. While he was with the Razorbacks, he always had the knack for breaking out long-yardage runs...moreso than McFadden. I always thought Jones could have been a heisman candidate if he wasn't sharing time with McFadden. I hope he becomes a big star for the Cowboys.

[The Rap]

Felix is ten times better than McFadden. The latter should be a flanker where he would have more success. As a running back he is a bust.

[bravos4evr]

well to be honest, everybody goes to the Raiders and stinks... then they leave and either regain their old form, or break out, there is an entire cutlure of suck going on in Oakland.

[Hillbilly]

I wouldn't call McFadden a complete bust, yet...at least until he's had a chance to prove himself with another franchise besides that black hole that he's in right now. A cockroach couldn't even thrive in Oakland at this point. Let him move to another team where there's a chance for survival, and if he still doesn't make it, then I'll call him a bust. I'll withhold judgement until then.

[The Rap]

well to be honest, everybody goes to the Raiders and stinks... then they leave and either regain their old form, or break out, there is an entire cutlure of suck going on in Oakland.

How do you spell suck in Oakland? A-L D-A-V-I-S

[bravos4evr]

Yeah bless his heart.... the Raiders are my second favorite team, but man they aren't going to be good again until Al either dies or gives up team control..( fat chance). He doesn't seem to grasp that it's not 1982 out there anymore.....

[The Rap]

Hey if you're a real fan then isnlt it up to you to take out a contract on Al or even do it yourself? :D

[bravos4evr]

I think he is actually one of those animatronic Hall of Presidents type guys now.... His head has prolly been frozen next toTeddy Ballgame's....

[Braves N 10]

Should be a better weekend of games this week. Winners of this weekends games are going to be.

Vikings, Saints, Colts, and Chargers.

[The Rap]

That's the way IT SHOULD be but this is the NFL and "any given Sunday" so at least one of them won't make it.

[luvdembravos]

For me, the Vikings-Cowboys game is the most intriguing game of the weekend. The Vikings haven’t lost at home all season but this Cowboys team is the toughest home opponent they’ve faced. My heart will be with Minnesota but my head thinks Dallas will win.

[Dreamscape]

Unfortunately, I work Sunday afternoon. I would really like to watch this game and I don't know why it wasn't scheduled for a primetime slot. Brett Farve, Adrian Peterson, and Company vs. the Dallas Cowboys. Very solid ratings just based on that much.

[The Rap]

It should be the best of all the games but you know how that usually turns out. The teams are evenly matched and it should be a real battle.

[The Rap]

Well the 1st one donl;t look very good. All of a sudden Reggie Bush becomes what we thought he might be when he came into the league. What ouzzles me is how this broadcast is turning into Warner's last hurrah? Do they know something we don't?

[bravos4evr]

Well, the Saints sure as hell looked like the same team that destroyed the NFL for the first half of the year!!!!! It's amazing what happens when your defense is actually healthy! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[Wahoo]

Well, the Saints sure as hell looked like the same team that destroyed the NFL for the first half of the year!!!!! It's amazing what happens when your defense is actually healthy! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!


Or what happens when you play the league's 20th ranked defense (and the worst of all of the playoff teams) at home. Let's see how good you all look next week when a real defense comes to town.

Oh and side note: the saints surrendered at least 22 points in 3 of their first 4 games. They then proceeded to surrender to give up 27, 34, 27, and 20 immediately after the bye. They gave up a lot of points all year long. Their defense hasn't been all that good all year (so I don't really buy the argument that their health had anything to do with their late season slide, at least on defense), and they are vulnerable, but everyone knows that this team is dependent on the saints offense and the other team turning the ball over. Guess we'll see next week, but it won't be nearly as easy for "dem saints" next week.

[bravos4evr]

Well yer wrong wahoo. They gave up a touchdown on either special teams or via turnover in 4 of their first 6 games.( and after game 6 we never had Greer ,Porter, Sharper,Ellis, Fujita and Vilma all on the field at the same time). They were a top ten defense until that happened.

Not to mention that they held the Cardinals to 14 points (and 7 after that ridiculous crapfest of a first play).

I really detest trash talk. So i won't do it. But why the need to run my team down?

[Wahoo]

Well yer wrong wahoo. They gave up a touchdown on either special teams or via turnover in 4 of their first 6 games.( and after game 6 we never had Greer ,Porter, Sharper,Ellis, Fujita and Vilma all on the field at the same time). They were a top ten defense until that happened.

Not to mention that they held the Cardinals to 14 points (and 7 after that ridiculous crapfest of a first play).

I really detest trash talk. So i won't do it. But why the need to run my team down?

Not trying to run your team down or talk trash, just disagreeing with your assessment of your team's defense. That's all. I don't talk trash, but I do believe that the saints will find things a lot more difficult next week with a more well-rounded opponent next week. I do apologize if that came across as trash talk, I just don't think the saints are as good as advertised, though they can still make the superbowl. They just remind me A LOT of the 2007 Cowboys squad.

[bravos4evr]

It's all good wahoo!
This team can beat anyone in the NFL IF they play like they did tonite. They played with some serious intensity and not only scored at will, but did a good job stopping a pretty potent offense as well. They did the things on defense that made them good early , they rushed the passer and created turnovers. If they can stay intense and focused they should be the team to beat in the NFC Champ game.

[Hobbes]

Looks like the Cowboys won't be advancing.

[Wahoo]

Looks like the Cowboys won't be advancing.

Nope. Good game by the Vikes. I like the Vikes to move on next week.

side note: hopefully Flozelle's injury will mean retirement, and we can get a better LT in the lineup.

[Dreamscape]

Cowboys just weren't on the same level as the Vikings from minute one. I'm sure everyone will blame Romo and those who don't, will blame Phillips, but the Cowboys just had no answer to the Vikings.

Go Saints, though. I want to see Farve cry.

[The Rap]

The Jets have just brought back the memory of the last time they had to play the Colts and a fellow named Namath made a brash prediction which wasn't as brash as everybody thought and the Jets won.

[Andy G.]

I hate the Jets. I'm glad I didn't see the game. Their coach and quarterback are both giant douches and I hope the Colts wipe the floor with them. No offense, Rap.

[luvdembravos]

The Jets have just brought back the memory of the last time they had to play the Colts and a fellow named Namath made a brash prediction which wasn't as brash as everybody thought and the Jets won.



And don’t forget that the Jets were a three touchdown underdog when Namath guaranteed victory.

I don’t know if they can beat the Colts next weekend but I wouldn’t be surprised. The Jets remind me of the 2000 Ravens team that had a great defense and almost no offense except for a little bit of a running game.

[The Rap]

No offense taken at all. Luv, and the common denominator between this Jets team and that Ravens squad was ......

[bravos4evr]

Wow, the one game I was convinced would be an easy pick was Chargers-Jets... glad I didn't make any wagers!

Colts-Jets..... I can't go against Peyton, the fact that the Jets Offense is kinda crappy doesn't give me enough confidence in that team to outscore the Colts unless there are some big play turnovers in their favor....
Colts 24 Jets 13

Saints-Vikings...... I'm partial here, but realistic, this game could go either way, both teams have superior offenses and the defenses for both played outstanding games in their prior games.... I think it's a pick em and I'm giving the edge to the home team in a shootout. Saints get the ball last and make a FG to win.

Saints 38 Vikings 35



SUPERBOWL

Saints-Colts..... the saints come out strong but just can't stop the passing attack of the Colts and lose a close game .

Colts 33 Saints 28

[The Rap]

Interesting and I never make picks when one of my teams is in the thick of it. That said if I was forced to pick one team to go all the way right now it would be your Saints.

[The Rap]

I am really proud of the Jets. They went much further than I ever dreamed and the future really looks good. I also am starting to believe that Peyton Manning is the greatest QB in history.

[KB 34]

Well, I guess Favre has to play another year to get back at the Packers properly now.

[Dreamscape]

As my facebook status now indicates...short of having the Cowboys in the Super Bowl, not having the Redskins, Eagles, Giants, Steelers, Brett Farve, or Rex Ryan in the Super Bowl isn't that bad.

[Wahoo]

Congrats bravos! Though, after watching both Peyton's boys and Payton's boys today, I will be shocked if the saints keep it within 2 TDs. Peyton looked sharp today, and I just don't think that saints blitz will affect Manning all that much. Either way, it should be a pretty entertaining superbowl, except for the halftime show.

[Dreamscape]

"How about that New Orleans?" really doesn't have the "How about them Cowboys?"

[luvdembravos]

"How about that New Orleans?" really doesn't have the "How about them Cowboys?"

Very true...not nearly as obnoxious.

[JanShan12]

I loved the games today. Both went as I hoped.

My dad is thrilled his Colts are back in the playoffs and Peyton continues to prove why he will go down as the best quarterback of all time.

Will Favre retire this time? I hope so... but of course we'll have to wait until the preseason to find out.

[FrankEC]

Being from Indiana, I was rooting for the Colts yesterday (even though I'm a huge Bears fan). I have to admit, though, Mark Sanchez impressed the heck out of me. He made a few rookie mistakes, but man does he look comfortable in the pocket. He definitely has the potential to be an elite QB in the NFL.

[The Rap]

Congrats Nick, enjoy the ride!

[bravos4evr]

thanx yall!!! i think i'm still drunk!lol

[The Rap]

I believe it considering what you wrote in another thread. :D

[bravos4evr]

You just proved my point for me

[The Rap]

Jeez, even when it is obvious that I am trying to be nice.

[bravos4evr]

I thought what I said was funny and sarcastic.... my bad rap

[Andy G.]

Jeez, even when it is obvious that I am trying to be nice.
He probably would have known that you were trying to be nice if you had put a smiley at the end of your post.

[The Rap]

Interesting because I have been an advocate of that for the longest time but keep being told it wasn't needed.

[bravos4evr]

Oh well it happens:D

[luvdembravos]

Congratulations New Orleans!

[The Rap]

Congrats Nick! I am aslo so tnakful the Saints won that had more to do with the city than anything else. But enjoy the moment, friend!

[Hobbes]

An enjoyable game with a pleasant outcome.

[Dreamscape]

Rather enjoyed that game. Won a buck on it, too. And really, you can't go wrong when you hear Phil Simms look like a fool. "Oh, I wouldn't blitz here..." followed by a blitz that leads to a timing disruption and a pick. Reminded me of the Super Bowl a few years back when the Pats beat the Rams in the last seconds with little passes to Kevin Faulk for 6-10 yards each time to set up the game winning field goal. All the while, John Madden is telling them to play for overtime or how they had to go down field.

[HaRdCoReBrAvEsFaN]

Turned out to be a very good game...put a smile on my face when Payton threw the pick 6...he's probally a good guy, but he's the one that chose to go to UT:)

[Andy G.]

I was at work and missed the entire first half and the half time show. I don't have a DVR anymore, but I'll be going to my parents house tomorrow to watch The Who's performance. What did you guys think? Better than Bruce last year?

I'm not all that critical. I like The Who, so I probably won't have a negative opinion or anything bad to say about it after I see it. I just hope that the audio wasn't crappy and that they gave it their all like they have always done. I can't imagine them half-a$$ing it, but they are getting old.

[The Rap]

They looked old but still were able to put on a great showing. Take into consideration how many of their songs turned into rock classics and also keep in mind, that like the Beatles, only half the group is still alive.

[FrankEC]

Well, I was really rooting for the Colts, but I can't be too upset that a fellow Purdue Management alum won and was named the MVP. Not the most exciting SB I've seen, but still a darn good game.

I thought the Who sounded really good, but man were they boring to watch. I swear Roger Daltry was being held up by wires or something. The guy didn't move the entire show. The lights, lasers, and fireworks really saved that show.

Big props to Carrie Underwood for having the balls to sing the National Anthem live. She missed some notes, but at least she had the guts to go out there and actually sing it. Queen Latifah?....not so much.

[Hillbilly]

Big props to Carrie Underwood for having the balls to sing the National Anthem live. She missed some notes, but at least she had the guts to go out there and actually sing it.

Hate I missed that. Aside from the whole PETA/Vegetarian thing, I think she is a goddess.

[bravos4evr]

i'M STILL IN SHOCK..... man I think I lost ten years off my life stressing during that game!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lauren T.]

My Facebook Live Feed is full of "WHO DAT?!" statuses from people who have either never mentioned the NFL in their status updates or people who aren't from NOLA or the surrounding states. I would mock them for bandwagoning, but really it's just pissing me off a little. I have no idea why.

[Chris_Moderato]

My Facebook Live Feed is full of "WHO DAT?!" statuses from people who have either never mentioned the NFL in their status updates or people who aren't from NOLA or the surrounding states. I would mock them for bandwagoning, but really it's just pissing me off a little. I have no idea why.

Because it's a stupid team slogan. It's proliferation was the only reason I wanted to see Indy win this game I otherwise didn't care about.

[bravos4evr]

Because it's a stupid team slogan. It's proliferation was the only reason I wanted to see Indy win this game I otherwise didn't care about.

Somebody drank their haterade today.......:rolleyes::D

[The Rap]

I love New Orleans. Visited there numerous times and loved the sense of freedom and artistry that permeated the air. Oh and the restaurants. It didn't matter where you ate because you knew that anyone who was mediocre was long gone. I cried when Katrina hit and my anger built up at an alarming rate watching the government reaction to it. I rooted for the Saints because this is a city that has had enough tragedy and something good should happen for the people there.

[Andy G.]

I love New Orleans. Visited there numerous times and loved the sense of freedom and artistry that permeated the air. Oh and the restaurants. It didn't matter where you ate because you knew that anyone who was mediocre was long gone. I cried when Katrina hit and my anger built up at an alarming rate watching the government reaction to it. I rooted for the Saints because this is a city that has had enough tragedy and something good should happen for the people there.
They get to see boobies whenever they want, so long as they have some beads to hand out. I'd say that's a good thing.

[bravos4evr]

It finally hit me today ..... watching the parade... I bawled like a newborn....man... damn the SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Andy G.]

It finally hit me today ..... watching the parade... I bawled like a newborn....man... damn the SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats buddy.

[FrankEC]

It finally hit me today ..... watching the parade... I bawled like a newborn....man... damn the SAINTS WON THE SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, one more post like this and you will be forced to turn in your Man card. Getting a little teary eyed is perfectly acceptable. Bawling like a newborn is NOT. :rolleyes:

[bravos4evr]

I may have exaggerated a little bit.... Tho I can't help but notice you are from Indiana......

[FrankEC]

In my defense, I may be from Indiana, but I'm actually a Bears fan.

I'm just joking with you. I'm actually very happy for the Saints and their fans. I'm also a HUGE Drew Brees fan. He was the QB at Purdue when I started working here. He has given back over $2mil to help student athletes here since he went pro. He is an absolute class act all around.

[bravos4evr]

I figured you were just pokin at me!

The word on the street around here is the Brees and the Saints will begin negotiating a contract to keep him in New Orleans his entire career. He loves the city and as you can imagine the city loves him. I bet this gets done in pretty quick fashion.

Now, if we can just add a few more defensive pieces , this team could be destined to be a dynasty....

[The Rap]

Meanwhile I am trying to figure out the Giants who released Antonio Pierce this morning.

[KB 34]

In my defense, I may be from Indiana, but I'm actually a Bears fan.

As a Bears fan do you think the Bears coaches will be rebels and use the forward pass next season after management gets some receivers capable of catching a forward pass?

I do have to admit writing Go Bears in the lights of the Chicago skyscrapers was awesome to see when I drove through Super Bowl Sunday a few years ago.

[The Rap]

I think they will especially since they signed Mike Martz to run the offense.

[Wahoo]

I figured you were just pokin at me!

The word on the street around here is the Brees and the Saints will begin negotiating a contract to keep him in New Orleans his entire career. He loves the city and as you can imagine the city loves him. I bet this gets done in pretty quick fashion.

Now, if we can just add a few more defensive pieces , this team could be destined to be a dynasty....



Not if my Boys have anything to say about it ;)

[FrankEC]

As a Bears fan do you think the Bears coaches will be rebels and use the forward pass next season after management gets some receivers capable of catching a forward pass?

I do have to admit writing Go Bears in the lights of the Chicago skyscrapers was awesome to see when I drove through Super Bowl Sunday a few years ago.

Yeah KB, as Michael said, I think that is why they brought in Mike Martz. Well, that and nobody else wanted the job. I really think that Jay Cutler can be a decent QB in the right system, and I think Martz will provide him with that.

[The Rap]

Only problem with Martz's signing is that Greg Olsen should ask for a trade. No TE had ever figured into Martz's plans.

[The Rap]

Jets are getting Cromartie from SD. I am giddy because it is going to be fun watching other teams trying to throw against Jets.

[Dreamscape]

Big Ben in trouble once again. Or it's just a misunderstanding. Or he sexually assaulted a girl (again). Or he was just a friendly guy buying drinks and signing autographs. It's all so confusing.

[JanShan12]

The Ravens sign Boldin to a 3 year extension and Peppers signs with the Bears, who have been very active so far.

[The Rap]

Big Ben's "problem" is probably that he just a big jock who still feels like he is in colllege and the center of attention who always gets what he wants.

[Wahoo]

Big Ben in trouble once again. Or it's just a misunderstanding. Or he sexually assaulted a girl (again). Or he was just a friendly guy buying drinks and signing autographs. It's all so confusing.


Yeah, I hate to say it, but where there is smoke there is usually fire. I'd say 2 claims from 2 different women in 2 different areas of the country. Something smells funny about that.

[luvdembravos]

Yep, I have to agree. Someone is about to get paid.

[The Rap]

While true that some players are victims to girls who want to make a buck, it is also true that a player has had to earn the right, so to speak, to become a target for those same vultures.

[The Rap]

Oh, and any comments aboiut the Giants should have taken Ben and not Eli in the draft may have been flushed down the toilet with this incident.