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ChopTime
07-19-2009, 03:58 PM
Sorry if this has been posted somewhere else, I didn't see it.


Braves manager Bobby Cox has said that he'd like to have Greg Maddux serve as a special instructor during Spring Training and it appears the four-time Cy Young Award winner is interested in the possibility of spending at least a week or two in this role.

"I would 100 percent think about it, absolutely," said Maddux, who played for Cox in Atlanta from 1993-2003.

After ending his 23-season Major League career with his retirement in December, Maddux opted to spend a week this year serving as a special Spring Training instructor for the Padres, who had utilized him in their starting rotation during the 2007 and '08 seasons.

"It was pretty easy for me to get to Arizona," Maddux said. "I played with that team the last two years so I knew all the players. It was more of a fun thing than an actual coaching experience. Having an opportunity to sit back with the coaches and hear what they say about the players, it was something I enjoyed."

This Spring Training assignment with the Padres provided Maddux the opportunity to remain close to his Las Vegas home. But Cox remains hopeful that he'll be able to lure the legendary hurler to Florida for a few weeks to benefit the Braves pitchers with his great intellect.

"We'd love to have him," Cox said. "He's welcome any time."

While Maddux hasn't completely closed the door on the possibility of accepting a full-time coaching role in the future, it seems he's currently more interested in spending time with his wife and two children.

Along with watching his 12-year-old son, Chase, play baseball, Maddux has enjoyed the regular father-son outings that they've regularly shared on the golf course.

"I don't miss (playing) as much as I thought I would, which is a good thing," Maddux said. "I'm enjoying being home. It does feel like it's still the offseason. I still consider myself a baseball player, but it's the offseason still. I'm enjoying going to my kids' games and playing catch-up."

Cox was certainly moved on Friday, when the Braves inducted Maddux into their Hall of Fame and then retired his No. 31 jersey. The 11-0 win his club claimed over the Mets only brightened a day the 68-year-old manager will seemingly never forget.

"I'd have to say that was one of the best days I've ever experienced in baseball," Cox said.

http://markbowman.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/07/maddux_open_to_helping_braves.html


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Sure would be nice to eventually get Maddux on the coaching staff full time.

Hobbes
07-19-2009, 04:10 PM
I'd love to have Maddux back in any capacity, and would someday love to see him as our pitching coach. But those comments seem more like the "we should get together sometime" kind of stuff.

slowride
07-19-2009, 05:49 PM
Those who can't act; teach. Those who act, can't always teach.

I'd love to see him as a top notch pitching coach with us. He'd need to start out in the minors though.

/Pendleton sucks.

Hobbes
07-19-2009, 06:33 PM
Those who can't act; teach. Those who act, can't always teach.
Except that Maddux has always been universally acclaimed for his beneficial effect on the pitching staffs of the teams on which he's played. He has always been kind of part pitching coach as a player. I don't think there would be a question about whether he'd be able to be an effective pitching coach.

slowride
07-19-2009, 06:50 PM
Being an influential veteran and being the coach are two different entities in my opinion; although I agree that his track record lends itself toward a successful coaching career if he so chooses.

wordslayerŠ
07-19-2009, 10:39 PM
Being an influential veteran and being the coach are two different entities in my opinion; although I agree that his track record lends itself toward a successful coaching career if he so chooses.

Point taken, but I think that a coach, philosophically/mentally, can be more beneficial than a nuts and bolts mechanical coach. And when it comes to a mental/philosophical approach, Maddux is off the scale intellectually. If any coach could make a positive impact on your pitching staff, it would be Maddux.

ChopTime
07-20-2009, 03:08 AM
I was kind of thinking of Maddux in terms of if he'd ever at some point be a candidate for the managers job... given that he is undoubtedly an adept student of the game and a fierce competitor. And no doubt he'd be a "pitchers" manager, perhaps a perfect fit to replace Bobby Cox. I don't know.... it's a fun idea to toy around with though.

bravos4evr
07-20-2009, 03:29 AM
Pitchers rarely make good mgr's because pitching is a lonely bidness. Almost like a different mindset in that way. Pitchers focus on the task at hand and tru the good ones think ahead and are always strategizing, it's still all about them most of the time.
I think it would be hard for players to follow a pitcher as a mgr.... It just seems weird.

Is it any coincidence that most mgr's are catchers, and middle infielders? The guys who are constantly thinking about the game?

ChopTime
07-20-2009, 03:35 AM
Pitchers rarely make good mgr's because pitching is a lonely bidness. Almost like a different mindset in that way. Pitchers focus on the task at hand and tru the good ones think ahead and are always strategizing, it's still all about them most of the time.
I think it would be hard for players to follow a pitcher as a mgr.... It just seems weird.

Is it any coincidence that most mgr's are catchers, and middle infielders? The guys who are constantly thinking about the game?



No, I definitely agree with you there, but I think Maddux might be an exception. And I may be way off, but to me he always seemed more in tune with the rest of the game than most pitchers.

Agent-X-
07-22-2009, 12:28 PM
Greg Maddux could be the best thing that could possibly happen to Tommy Hanson. As good as the kid is, his philosophy to pitching needs to continue to be "It's much easier to get outs on pops and grounders than to try to strike everybody out." And Maddog became a legend off of doing that. It also saved him from getting injured.

ChopTime
07-22-2009, 06:22 PM
Greg Maddux could be the best thing that could possibly happen to Tommy Hanson. As good as the kid is, his philosophy to pitching needs to continue to be "It's much easier to get outs on pops and grounders than to try to strike everybody out." And Maddog became a legend off of doing that. It also saved him from getting injured.



Eh... Roger Clemens had a pretty good career striking everybody out.

Lauren T.
07-22-2009, 07:53 PM
Eh... Roger Clemens had a pretty good career striking everybody out.
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Wahoo
07-22-2009, 08:12 PM
Eh... Roger Clemens had a pretty good career striking everybody out.


The point that I believe Don is making is that his goal shouldn't be to strike people out. Efficiency is the way to go. Strikeouts should come effortlessly. Striving for strike out tends to get pitchers in trouble trying to make perfect pitches, resulting in deeper counts and shorter outings.

KB 34
07-23-2009, 01:14 AM
I recall Maddux used to tell Jason Marquis to stop trying to pitch like him because Marquis had faster pitches and in a sense better stuff. The point is Maddux will have a lot of ideas on how Hanson should pitch and they'll be really good ideas. Maddux is the perfect person to have around any pitcher the team has because his knowledge of pitching is ridiculous and will hopefully help a lot of players out.

Andy G.
07-23-2009, 01:41 AM
Does anybody remember the story of Maddux calling pitches for Brad Penny when he was with the Dodgers? I think he did it for one game and Penny had one of his best games of the season.

If he took a job as a pitching coach next year, he'd be the best pitching coach in the game from day 1, IMO.