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RiknTN
06-29-2009, 06:17 PM
Braves related as there are former Braves here.....

This is making it's way around the sports forums today....I have no idea of it's accuracy.....

2003 steroid list

1.Nomar Garciaparra
2.Manny Ramirez
3.Johnny Damon
4.Trot Nixon
5.David Ortiz
6.Shea Hillenbrand
7.Derek Lowe
8.Pedro Martinez
9.Brian Roberts
10.Jay Gibbons
11.Melvin Mora
12.Jerry Hairston
13.Jason Giambi
14.Alfonso Soriano
15.Raul Mondesi
16. Aaron Boone
17.Andy Pettitte
18.Jose Contreras
19.Roger Clemens
20.Carlos Delgado
21.Vernon Wells
22.Frank Catalanotto
23.Kenny Rogers
24.Magglio Ordonez
25.Sandy Alomar
26.Bartolo Colon
27.Brent Abernathy
28.Jose Lima
29.Milton Bradley
30.Casey Blake
31.Danys Baez
32.Craig Monroe
33.Dmitri Young
34.Alex Sanchez
35.Eric Chavez
36.Miguel Tejada
37.Eric Byrnes
38.Jose Guillen
39.Keith Foulke
40.Ricardo Rincon
41.Bret Boone
42.Mike Cameron
43.Randy Winn
44.Ryan Franklin
45.Freddy Garcia
46.Rafael Soriano
47.Scott Spiezio
48.Troy Glaus
49.Francisco Rodriguez
50.Ben Weber
51.Alex Rodriguez
52.Juan Gonzalez
53.Rafael Palmeiro
54.Carl Everett
55.Javy Lopez
56.Gary Sheffield
57.Mike Hampton
58.Ivan Rodriguez
59.Derrek Lee
60.Bobby Abreu
61.Terry Adams
62.Fernando Tatis
63.Livan Hernandez
64.Hector Almonte
65.Tony Armas
66.Dan Smith
67.Roberto Alomar
68.Cliff Floyd
69.Roger Cedeno
70.Jeromy Burnitz
71.Moises Alou
72.Sammy Sosa
73.Corey Patterson
74.Carlos Zambrano
75.Mark Prior
76.Kerry Wood
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan=2 0Cruz
80.Aramis Ramirez
81.Craig Wilson
82.Kris Benson
83.Richie Sexson
84.Geoff Jenkins
85.Valerio de los Santos
86.Benito Santiago
87.Rich Aurilia
88.Barry Bonds
89.Andres Galarraga
90.Jason Schmidt
91.Felix Rodriguez
92.Jason Christiansen
93.Matt Herges
94.Paul Lo Duca
95.Shawn Green
96.Jeromy Burnitz
97.Adrian Beltre
98.Eric Gagne
99.Guillermo Mota
100.Luis Gonzalez
101.Todd Helton
102.Ryan Klesko
103.Gary Matthews Jr
104.Oliver Perez

Hobbes
06-29-2009, 07:12 PM
Bret Boone and Javy Lopez are on that list? I am shocked, I tell you, shocked!

Agent-X-
06-29-2009, 07:44 PM
Major victory for Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. And yep, I do notice a couple of cheaters on there by the name of Pedro Martinez and Roger Clemens.

BraveFan
06-29-2009, 07:58 PM
Major victory for Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. And yep, I do notice a couple of cheaters on there by the name of Pedro Martinez and Roger Clemens.

and no Chipper or Andruw either

Hobbes
06-29-2009, 08:02 PM
I don't know how the Giles brothers skated under the radar.

BraveFan
06-29-2009, 08:04 PM
I don't know how the Giles brothers skated under the radar.

I don't think they tested every player, I could be wrong though.

Wahoo
06-29-2009, 08:52 PM
Major victory for Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and John Smoltz. And yep, I do notice a couple of cheaters on there by the name of Pedro Martinez and Roger Clemens.

Also...cough...K-rod..cough. God, I hate that dude.

BigWorm
06-29-2009, 09:01 PM
Whew! No Chipper. Thank god.

argentina brave
06-29-2009, 10:20 PM
Also...cough...K-rod..cough. God, I hate that dude.

we agree!!!:)

slowride
06-29-2009, 10:20 PM
F'n Hampton....

No noteable Braves that we're proud of. Well...maybe Lowe, but I don't really consider him a Brave. Not in the Hanson/Chip way.

You know....if this were the real list; you'd think someone at the MLB offices would know how to use the sort feature in Excel.

argentina brave
06-29-2009, 10:25 PM
70.Jeromy Burnitz
71.Moises Alou
72.Sammy Sosa
73.Corey Patterson
74.Carlos Zambrano
75.Mark Prior
76.Kerry Wood
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan=2 0Cruz
80.Aramis Ramirez

cheatin' cubs....didn't they hose us in that year's playoffs?! :rolleyes:

Wahoo
06-29-2009, 10:35 PM
70.Jeromy Burnitz
71.Moises Alou
72.Sammy Sosa
73.Corey Patterson
74.Carlos Zambrano
75.Mark Prior
76.Kerry Wood
77.Matt Clement
78.Antonio Alfonseca
79.Juan=2 0Cruz
80.Aramis Ramirez

cheatin' cubs....didn't they hose us in that year's playoffs?! :rolleyes:

They sure as hell did. Good grief. That whole squad was freakin' juiced.

slowride
06-29-2009, 10:45 PM
I thought Alou's hitting prowess was due to him urinating on his hands every day.

Lauren T.
06-29-2009, 11:15 PM
Not a single name on that list surprises me. I don't want to believe Pudge ever juiced, but heck, it seems like everyone did.

Hobbes
06-29-2009, 11:23 PM
Not a single name on that list surprises me. I don't want to believe Pudge ever juiced, but heck, it seems like everyone did.

Pudge was one of the most obvious guys out there.

wordslayerŠ
06-29-2009, 11:28 PM
I was a little surprised by Klesko.

sdp
06-29-2009, 11:55 PM
First thoughts: 90% of those names should have used more.

argentina brave
06-30-2009, 12:03 AM
hampton?!

...someone had to bring him up, guess no better person than his biggest chopnation apologist.

like someone else mentioned, whew, thank the lawd chipper wasn't there....it would've really depressed me, as would smoltz. alas, i can feel better about at least that.

Lauren T.
06-30-2009, 10:57 AM
Pudge was one of the most obvious guys out there.
I know. ;) I still don't want to believe it! :rolleyes:

Agent-X-
06-30-2009, 12:25 PM
I would be even a little more surprised if any notable star didn't... Just because it hasn't been revealed yet certainly doesn't mean they didn't.

And yes. That goes for Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz, and Chipper. I would be more surprised if they didn't.

I certainly hope they didn't, though. Greg Maddux may have had the best career of any pitcher, ever. Esp. if Clemens used PEDs and Maddux didn't.

RiknTN
06-30-2009, 01:16 PM
it honestly surprised me Chipper wasn't on the list...especially during that time frame....

absintheofmalaise
06-30-2009, 01:30 PM
In other news, I'll be coming out with my own list of steroid users later this afternoon. It will have as much veracity as this list does.

Andy G.
06-30-2009, 01:42 PM
The only thing that makes Chipper suspicious is his injuries. A lot of them are caused because of a legitimate problem with his feet, though. He's never been linked to steroids. His career does not look like one of a steroid user. He peaked at the right time. His power increased at an appropriate rate and at an appropriate age. He didn't add a ridiculous amount of bulk in one offseason at any point(though he did get kinda big for a few years, it didn't look freakish). I understand being skeptical of him. So many players were using steroids. It's impossible to say Chipper didn't.

sdp
06-30-2009, 02:01 PM
The list is fake. (http://bases.newsvine.com/_news/2009/06/30/2984144-that-steroid-list-is-a-phony?category=sports)

Lauren T.
06-30-2009, 02:09 PM
it honestly surprised me Chipper wasn't on the list...especially during that time frame....
Steroids and greenies are two different things.

Agent-X-
06-30-2009, 02:32 PM
Locking since the list is fake and there's nothing left to discuss except speculation.