The Rap's Celebrity RIP Thread

[Wahoo]

I dated a girl who, some years later, went into cardiac arrest (which, she subsequently explained at great length, is not the same as a heart attack) in her late-20s. It turned out she has a heart defect, though.


Oh, I know that it can happen that way, but man...it just happens so rarely that combined with the fact that Murphy often looked like she was strung out, its just easy to jump to the conclusion that the it was somehow related to past drug use.

[wordslayer©]

edited for inaccuracies

[The Rap]

Percy Sutton, 89, RIP

When I grew up here in New York City the dominant black figures were congressman Adam Clayton Powell and entrepeneur/politician Percy Sutton. Percy did more for black people than just about anyone in the community and especially the younger set. He owned the Apollo Theater at one time and started the first all black radio station which was a great feature for a young white kid like myself as I was very much into the original Temptations, Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, Little Anthony and the Imperials, Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Sam and Dave, and Jackie Wilson and all the other performers like them. Percy always gave back to his community and all of Harlem is in mourning as I write this about a truly great man who played such a huge role in the growth of his community.

[The Rap]

Teddy Pendergrass, RIP

I remember first hearing Teddy sing as the vocalist for Harold Melvin and the Bluenotes. The one song which I consider one of the greatest ever was "Wake Up Everybody." Then he left the group and embarked on a successful solo career with hits like "Love TKO."

Then a tragedy hit and he was in a car accident which left him paralyzed from the neck down. He continued to sing and had a couple of hit albums including one of the most touching sons I have ever heard called "In My Life." Teddy passed away yesterday and didn't even reach age 60. Gone is one of the greatest soul singers of all time and the one I think proved a worthy successor to another who died young and tragically, Otis Redding.

[Chris_Moderato]

Tiffany Brissette- 35

Better known as V.I.C.I. the Robot on a favorite of mine from the 1980s, Small Wonder. However, I think her turn as Annie Ricker, one of the many love interests of Parker Lewis is what I'll remember her for the most.

R.I.P.V.I.C.I...you shall be missed.

[Lauren T.]

Holy crap, how did V.I.C.I. die?? I used to LOVE that show!

[Chris_Moderato]

Holy crap, how did V.I.C.I. die?? I used to LOVE that show!

Blunt force trauma caused by falling paint cans, apparently.

[wordslayer©]

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[Chris_Moderato]

edited for inaccuracies

Don't let those pesky things stop you.

[wordslayer©]

Don't let those pesky things stop you.

Truthfully......

I will go search for some city in arkansas and go to the local newspaper there, such as the Cornfed Times or something, and once there, look up the local obituaries. Once I find one that tickles me, and if the person seems somewhat interesting, especially if they were a local judge at the county fair, I then go to post it. *I* find it funny, but then again, I know that other people won't find it funny, which usually doesn't bother me too much, because as long as it amuses me, then I'm good with it, but on the other hand, I don't want to butcher up someones thread by ruining it and then typing up an apology, because it's a lot harder being a genuine fake than it is being sincere, but since my sincerity is never as good as my genuine fakedness, I just..........well......end up deleting my post instead of doing a lot of groveling.

And so...because of the guilt I felt from ruining a thread, Elma Lanson, from Stansora Arkansas, did not get her shining day in the chopnation thread. No one will ever know that she spent her life at the Throbbing Hill Pentacostal church, where she, and several other members, baked devils food cake on Pot Luck Sundays, as a testimony to the sinners out there that had yet to bask in the glow of her unconditional love.

And so.....I deleted Elma's "one shining moment." Even though none of you know of her, take solace in the fact that I knew her. And even though I didn't know her in some kind of a sensual way, where we both spent hours flicking each others erect nipples on a cold winter night, I still had a closeness to her that most of you here won't ever understand, because real love isn't kind.....it's brutal....filled with disappointment......along with thousands of premature ejaculations, and thankfully, we never got close enough to hurt each other like that.

But the point is....I am not going to put posts in this very serious thread that brings it down to some silly juvenile level, because this thread is a serious thread. And so, when I become weak, and I do slip and post something in it, please know that, when I come down off my drunken sophmoric high, that I will edit my posts for inaccuracies, because the dead deserve dignity. A society is measured by how we treat our dead.

[The Rap]

I have no idea what is suddenly going on in this thread.

[Chris_Moderato]

Truthfully......

I will go search for some city in arkansas and go to the local newspaper there, such as the Cornfed Times or something, and once there, look up the local obituaries. Once I find one that tickles me, and if the person seems somewhat interesting, especially if they were a local judge at the county fair, I then go to post it. *I* find it funny, but then again, I know that other people won't find it funny, which usually doesn't bother me too much, because as long as it amuses me, then I'm good with it, but on the other hand, I don't want to butcher up someones thread by ruining it and then typing up an apology, because it's a lot harder being a genuine fake than it is being sincere, but since my sincerity is never as good as my genuine fakedness, I just..........well......end up deleting my post instead of doing a lot of groveling.

And so...because of the guilt I felt from ruining a thread, Elma Lanson, from Stansora Arkansas, did not get her shining day in the chopnation thread. No one will ever know that she spent her life at the Throbbing Hill Pentacostal church, where she, and several other members, baked devils food cake on Pot Luck Sundays, as a testimony to the sinners out there that had yet to bask in the glow of her unconditional love.

And so.....I deleted Elma's "one shining moment." Even though none of you know of her, take solace in the fact that I knew her. And even though I didn't know her in some kind of a sensual way, where we both spent hours flicking each others erect nipples on a cold winter night, I still had a closeness to her that most of you here won't ever understand, because real love isn't kind.....it's brutal....filled with disappointment......along with thousands of premature ejaculations, and thankfully, we never got close enough to hurt each other like that.

But the point is....I am not going to put posts in this very serious thread that brings it down to some silly juvenile level, because this thread is a serious thread. And so, when I become weak, and I do slip and post something in it, please know that, when I come down off my drunken sophmoric high, that I will edit my posts for inaccuracies, because the dead deserve dignity. A society is measured by how we treat our dead.

Don't feel bad. I've taken to posting false obituaries.

[The Rap]

Jean Simmons, 80, RIP One of the most beautiful and talented actors I have ever seen on screen. Her beauty could put a young kid into a trance as he watched her on the big screen. May she rest in peace.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Just noticed where the last of the Cartwrights passed away. Pernell Roberts, portrayed the most complex character, eldest son, Adam. Roberts gave his character much more depth than the other stereotyped characters on the Ponderosa. I enjoyed the show for years, but it wasn't the same after Roberts departed in 1965. He had been featured in several movies and also starred later in Trapper John MD.
RIP, Pernell.

[Chris_Moderato]

Howard Zinn. 1922-2010

[The Rap]

Beat me to the punch, Chris. A great man has passed away.

[Chris_Moderato]

J.D. Salinger.
1919-2010

Link. (http://www.accessatlanta.com/celebrities-tv/catcher-in-the-rye-285824.html?cxntlid=thbz_hm)

[The Rap]

I must be getting old because you beat me again. Salinger was an enigma to many simply because he was a recluse who didn't give interviews and didn't allow his work to be done in other mediums although he was offered millions. What is arguable is that he may have written the greatest novel of all time with The Catcher in the Rye, written in 1951. Mr. Salinger gave us a gift whene no matter how many times we say thank you it still wouldn't be nearly enough. May he rest in peace.

[The Rap]

Congressman John Murtha 77 A terrible loss of a true American hero. He always had our boys and girls as his top priority and if you love our soldiers then you must mourn for their loss. May he RIP.

[luvdembravos]

Congressman John Murtha 77 A terrible loss of a true American hero. He always had our boys and girls as his top priority and if you love our soldiers then you must mourn for their loss. May he RIP.

Soldiers and marines won't mourn his loss nearly as much as the "redneck racists" he represented who benefited enormously from the $100M in pork he brought into his district on an annual basis.

[Chris_Moderato]

...and if you love our soldiers then you must mourn for their loss.

There's something about this statement that strikes the ear funny.

[KB 34]

RIP Dr. G.K. Podila, Dr. Maria Ragland Davis and Dr. Adriel Johnson, all Biology Professors at the University of Alabama-Huntsville. They were all victims of the shooting there today. Two summers ago I lived at UAH and found it a great place to live and work nearby. Today is a sad day for the University. Violent faculty and students? It's a scary world out there.

[The Rap]

Well the professor who did the shooting is being revealed as a true nut job. So it goes. A real tragedy.

One anpother note the lead singer of The Knack died but I don't know his name as I was never very fond of that band.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Heard some sad news today. One of my favorite pitchers left the game for the last time yesterday. Jim Bibby died at age 65. He was a really good pitcher who played most of his career with some poor teams, but he finished at 111 - 101, 3.76 ERA. Bibby helped the Pirates win the 1979 Series and also pitched a no-hitter for Texas. He pitched one of the best games I've seen, in Atlanta back in 1981. He allowed a single to Terry Harper leading off the bottom of the first, then set down the next 27 batters! He also had a couple of doubles and drove in a run, if memory serves, in pitching a 5-0 shutout. Big Jim could bring it! RIP.

[Dreamscape]

Bibby was the pitching coach in Lynchburg for the Mets (early to late 80's) and Red Sox (late 80's to mid-90's) and Hillcats (Pirates) and Bibby is the only player to have his number retired. He seemed to settle into the area and was very active. Apparently, he was as nice as he was effective.

[The Rap]

Alexander Haig RIP

I never dreamed I would be posting this but forgive and forget somet9imes is the right thing to do. He worked many years as a military man and gave service to this country and then worked in the White Houses of Nixon and Reagan. He played a key role in getting Nixon to take the high road and resigning but made a blunder with one comment he made in later years when the Gipper was shot and that left a bad taste in the mouths of many.

Interesting that his son Brian Haig is one of my favorite authors basing his fiction on a central character named Sean Drummond who is a JAG officer. My condolences to Brian and the rest of the family and may the old man rest in peace.

[luvdembravos]

Alexander Haig RIP

I never dreamed I would be posting this but forgive and forget somet9imes is the right thing to do. He worked many years as a military man and gave service to this country and then worked in the White Houses of Nixon and Reagan. He played a key role in getting Nixon to take the high road and resigning but made a blunder with one comment he made in later years when the Gipper was shot and that left a bad taste in the mouths of many.

Interesting that his son Brian Haig is one of my favorite authors basing his fiction on a central character named Sean Drummond who is a JAG officer. My condolences to Brian and the rest of the family and may the old man rest in peace.


Haig was never a favorite of mine ... nor was he very popular with graduates from my Alma Mater. I believe he was still a 4-star general when he was Nixon's chief of staff...uncommon career path to say the least.

I never trusted the guy as he was a classic example of why generals should fight wars and leave policy to the politicians. But like you said Michael, forgive and forget. May he rest in peace.

[The Rap]

[B]Willie Davis, 69 RIP

Man it is tough when they starrt dropping and you were young when they were young. Willie was a mecurial CF for the Dodgers and part of the famous "Davis boys" of the early 60's. The team relied on Maury Wills, Frank Howard and Tommy and Willie Davis to support the incredible pitching of Sandy Koufax, Don Drysdale, etc. Willie was a Gold Glove caliber fielder and always a threat on the basepaths simply becsause he probably was the fastest man in the game at that time. He was as smooth a player that I think I have seen. May he RIP.B]

[The Rap]

Corey Haim, 38, RIP

I am not going to say I was ever a fan of this young man and have no gauge at how well he was at his craft. I do know the problem is the age old drug usage and I wanted to point out that Corey was trying to clean himself up, which is very hard to do, and it saddens me whenever any young person can't make it. I hope he finds peace now. RIP.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Too bad about Haim...he was tolerable in several of the flicks I recall him in. I always sorta figured it'd be the other Corey (Feldman) we'd be seeing the early obits for..........

[The Rap]

Tom "T-Bone" Wolk, 58 RIP

I got to know Tom a but when I was friendly with Daryl Hall and John Oates back in the 80's. Tom was the bass player in their band and had the habit of always wearing a little hat on his head. I remember asking him who he thought was the best bass player he ever heard and was surprised when quickly responded with, "Paul McCartney." He went on to say that no one comes close to the person he considers to be royalkty.

Just read that he died of a sudden heart attack out of the blue and and 58 is a young age. I hope he RIP.

[The Rap]

Merlin Olsen, 69, RIP

Oh the Fearsome Foursome of yesteryear! Merlin, Deacon Jones, Lamar Lundy and Rosey Grier and my condolences to all the quarterbacks who took a shot from any of the cited four. Merlin was a giant of a man who went into broadcasting and even acting as he became a regular for a time on "Little House on the Prairie." A true gentleman and superb athlete, a wonderful combination and he will be missed by many. May he RIP.

[bravos4evr]

Tom "T-Bone" Wolk, 58 RIP

I got to know Tom a but when I was friendly with Daryl Hall and John Oates back in the 80's. Tom was the bass player in their band and had the habit of always wearing a little hat on his head. I remember asking him who he thought was the best bass player he ever heard and was surprised when quickly responded with, "Paul McCartney." He went on to say that no one comes close to the person he considers to be royalkty.

Just read that he died of a sudden heart attack out of the blue and and 58 is a young age. I hope he RIP.

Paul is an underrated bass player but to say he's the "best" is well..... foolish ( the guy was prolly a McCartney worshiper which is cool and all, but you gotta be able to seperate fantasy from reality).

Best all time? Charlie Mingus or Jaco Pastorius prolly.....

[The Rap]

Well it was his opinion that's all. Besides the guys you mention are not really rock and rollers are they? I don't like ranking musicians anyway because so much of it is relative. I do know that many people don't appreciate bass players as much as they probably should.

[Chris_Moderato]

Well it was his opinion that's all. Besides the guys you mention are not really rock and rollers are they? I don't like ranking musicians anyway because so much of it is relative. I do know that many people don't appreciate bass players as much as they probably should.

Goddamn right.

[bravos4evr]

Oh absolutely, bass players get the royal crapola when it comes to props ( which is prolly one of the reasons I switched to guitar).

No they are jazz guys, but I really dig on some jazz bass man, it's the shizznit!

[The Rap]

Well it was Miles Davis who got me turned on to at least some jazz. Man was wicked talented!

[ScooterBrave]

Maybe we can start a jazz thread....

I always like Stanley Clark, although it would be hard to argue with Pastorius or Mingus. Victor Wooten is excellent as well; it's got to be touch playing jazz bass in a band where the main instrument is a banjo.

[The Rap]

Peter Graves RIP The original leader of the Mission Impossible TV team and later a memorable role in the first Airplane movie. Many didn't know that he and Jim Arness of Gunsmoke were brothers.

[bravos4evr]

You like to watch gladiator movies? you ever seen a grown man naked?

He was great in Airplane! Oh and as the prisoner with a secret in Stalag 17

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Sorry to see that Mr. Phelps has died....the secretary has disavowed any knowledge of his actions. By the way, he wasn't the original leader of the IM Force, that was Mr. Briggs, portrayed by Steven Hill. Hill quit the series because he refused to work on Saturdays, due to his Jewish beliefs.
"Over, Oveur?"
"HUH?"

[The Rap]

True I forgot Hill because he became an orthodox Jew. He later starred in Law and Order though.

Fess Parker, 85, RIP

When I was a little boy (and I do mean little) I used to own a coonskin cap simply because of my hero on TV, Davy Crockett. Fess parker played davy and became the idol of children everywhere. May he rest in peace.

[Lauren T.]

How does one become an orthodox Jew? Does that just mean you are more observant than you were before?

[ScooterBrave]

How does one become an orthodox Jew? Does that just mean you are more observant than you were before?

IANJ, but my understanding is that Orthodox Judaism is a very strict interpretation of the Talmud and it's code of behavior and practice. That's an incomplete nutshell explanation.

[wordslayer©]

How does one become an orthodox Jew? Does that just mean you are more observant than you were before?

I think you start out as a pilgrim and then have to climb the ladder.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

....then you do the hokey-pokey and you turn yourself around...

[The Rap]

An Orthodox Jew is one that adheres to the Torah and the laws therein. This includes observance of the Sabbath on Saturdays and the laws of kosher. There is no cognizance of progress in the world and adaptation of the religion to those changes. What is written is law and that is it forever and ever.

If one needs progress to play a role then they opt for Conservatism. This is adherence to the same laws but adapted to the current stae of affairs.

The third branch is Reform Judaism which might best be described that it is whatever you want it to be.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Since no one else offered, Robert Culp died recently. Culp co-starred with Bill Cosby in a groundbreaking tv show called, I Spy, back in the sixties. Culp generally was cast as a smooth ladie's man-type. He was also in a movie that caused a bit of a stir in the sixties, Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice. It was pretty racy for the times, dealing with swingers, open marriage, etc., before the nation's morals went to Hell. RIP Bob!

[Hobbes]

I actually remember Culp mostly from the show The Greatest American Hero.

[The Rap]

He also played many parts in various films in a supporting role. Very suave and debonair and had the looks to match. I used to watch I Spy with him and Cosby and it was the forerunner of many shows that came after it.

[Chris_Moderato]

I actually remember Culp mostly from the show The Greatest American Hero.

http://allfunteevee.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/greatest-american-hero.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_ZUSQQdoS4)
Did someone say my name?
[Click me for further nostalgia.]

[The Rap]

[B]I will never forget when William Katt and Tom Berenger made a film called Butch and Sundance; The Early Years. It was uncanny how believable they were in looking like young versions of Robert Redford and Paul Newman.[B]

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Just read where Dixie Carter died yesterday at 70. She was great in Designing Women! The biggest surprise is that she predeceded her hubby Hal Holbrook! He's a wonderful actor but he's really looked rather haggard the last couple of times I've seen him. R.I.P.

[The Rap]

One of the great loners who represented true invidualism in American folklore passed away today. A very interesting fellow was Richard Zimmerman more commonly called "Dugout Dick." He was 94 and may he RIP.

Read about him because you will be in awe (I think);

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/04/23/1164899/death-of-caveman-ends-an-era-in.html

[wordslayer©]

One of the great loners who represented true invidualism in American folklore passed away today. A very interesting fellow was Richard Zimmerman more commonly called "Dugout Dick." He was 94 and may he RIP.

Read about him because you will be in awe (I think);

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/04/23/1164899/death-of-caveman-ends-an-era-in.html

From your link:

"Known as the "Salmon River Caveman," Richard Zimmerman lived an essentially 19th century lifestyle, a digital-age anachronism who never owned a telephone or a television and lived almost entirely off the land."

It's funny to me how that same paragraph could have been written like this:

"Known as the Salmon River Caveman, Richard Zimmerman lived an essentially 19th century lifestyle, due to the fact that he was a social misfit. His inability to secure a job and maintain a relationship forced him into an oddball existence where he ended up having to spend the remainder of his life living entirely off the land."

RIP Richard........you are one lucky man. No one should ever get to spend their entire life without having the pleasure to deal with an AT&T customer service rep.

[The Rap]

LOL, Still I can't imagine the loss of a job and not being lucky in relationships is enough reason to live like he did. There is something in guys like that that makes them so individualistic (and maybe the real reason for not keeping a job or having a relationship).Think Jeremiah Johnson because that is what this guy reminds me of.

[The Rap]

RIP Robin Roberts age 83 One of the best pitchers in my youth and one of the first bsaball cards I ever owned (I think it was 1955).

[The Rap]

A great lady passed away last night. Actress, singer, activist, philatropist, Lena Horne was 92 when she left us. Her sheer beauty was legendary and the icon she was in the black community especially was one of the key features of "Sandford and Son" as Redd Foxx constantly referred to her as the ideal fignment of his desire and imagination. May she rest in peace.

[wordslayer©]

Ronnie James Dio

Dio's life and death touched people all over the world. His lessons of nonviolence, passive resistance, and civil disobedience would live on well beyond his life. It would influence the American civil rights movement and the leaders of it. Martin Luther King Jr. used his lessons to lead his own people to independence. The techniques of nonviolence require devotion to the idea, which does not come easy. You must overcome yourself to spread peace to the world.

Edit: my utmost apologies to the Dio family. I inadvertently pulled the obituary from Gandhi's death.

RIP Mr. Dio. You were a great leader to the head banger nation.

[CanadaBravesFan]

I agree on all said about RJD Wordslayer. Now, he truly is a Rainbow in the Dark. RIP Little Beast.

[wordslayer©]

This has been a really big week for deaths, but sadly, the joy is gone because the Rap isn't here to share it with us in the death thread.

[ScooterBrave]

This has been a really big week for deaths, but sadly, the joy is gone because the Rap isn't here to share it with us in the death thread.

In a really weird way, that all made sense!

[Hobbes]

I guess Rap might not be a Gary Coleman fan.

But I would surely have expected a lengthy write-up from him on Dennis Hopper, who surely must have been one of his heroes from his beloved 60's.

[Chris_Moderato]

He may be protesting the end of the political forum.

[jlcct]

May the political thread rest in peace.

[jlcct]

The death thread lol.

[wordslayer©]

Manute Bol

Celebrities die so the Rap can live. I love the irony. Rap so loved the celebrities, and in their death, they breath into him, life. It's so beautiful in its simplicity.

It's like that movie, "It's a wonderful life." Every time a bell rings an angel gets its wings. Every time a celebrity dies, a bump occurs in the death thread.

I come to the chopnation members with a somber heart and ask for this simple request.........

When a celebrity dies, let's all come together in this thread and celebrate a birth. The birth of the rap....and dare I say it..........

The Rapture

[Agent-X-]

LOL!

[Freddy_Ballgame]

This type of insulting material helped get the political thread shut down.
I love the smell of hypocrisy in the evening.....it smells like....

[Chris_Moderato]

This type of insulting material helped get the political thread shut down.
I love the smell of hypocrisy in the evening.....it smells like....

It smells like someone taking themselves (and others of their generation) too seriously.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

Kinda over-sensitive there, aren't ya? Maybe some in other generations can't take the truth or a joke....

[bravos4evr]

It smells like someone taking themselves (and others of their generation) too seriously.



I think I crapped myself...... well, honestly, when celebrities are involved how can one avoid it ?

[Agent-X-]

Kinda over-sensitive there, aren't ya? Maybe some in other generations can't take the truth or a joke....

I think the part of this that some of us find funny is this... We shut down the political forum and Rap quit posting. He basically said he was going to quit posting and then did... all because he felt like we were censoring opinions.

Really, politics never had a place here, and since closing that forum I've felt like this place is a lot more about baseball. My enjoyment level has increased. :D

[Dreamscape]

I think the part of this that some of us find funny is this... We shut down the political forum and Rap quit posting. He basically said he was going to quit posting and then did... all because he felt like we were censoring opinions.

Really, politics never had a place here, and since closing that forum I've felt like this place is a lot more about baseball. My enjoyment level has increased. :D
Same here. It's also rather nice not to see PMs every other day about someone feeling slighted or unfairly punished or whatever.

[luvdembravos]

In the absence of the political forum, I'll let GEN McChrystal and his aides speak on my behalf. ;)

[Freddy_Ballgame]

I don't really care one way or the other, guys. I joined to enjoy the Braves. The political forum was nice very rarely when baseball wasn't a hot topic. I don't understand Michael bailing out as he did, but I won't lose any sleep over it. He had been threatening it for years. I enjoyed some of his baseball talk, but he just wasn't able to recall that he too, was a young man once. Young men all have much more urgency to be heard and believe they are right and rarely consider they may not be. I'm not slamming anyone, just speaking from experience. As a guy gets older, if he's lucky enough or gains enough wisdom, he slowly appreciates that the world does indeed revolve around him, not because of him. Apparently, Michael never got to that point or just didn't want to yield to youth. He's still a good guy and maybe he'll come back to talk baseball sometime. There were a lot less scraps doing that!

(Oh yeah....that last remark by luv would've been removed if I had slipped it in.)

[Lauren T.]

(Oh yeah....that last remark by luv would've been removed if I had slipped it in.)
I'm tired of the "everyone's against me" attitude, no matter who posts it. (This comment is just the most convenient to quote, Freddy.) I know I have a unique POV around here, but I just post my opinion and let that be that. I try not to bait people into arguments with statements like this one. Rap did it all the time, and it drove me batty. I rarely read his posts because of it.

[Freddy_Ballgame]

The remark was true, Lauren, even if you don't care for it. I stated it from past experience. I don't care much for the everybody's against me stuff either. I do have a little trouble seeing some folks get away with stuff and some folks not getting away with similar stuff. I still cannot comprehend why a guy as intelligent as Rap was incapable of recognizing how boorish he was a lot of times when making remarks, then would almost weep openly when jumped on by others. There are several here far better at "giving it" than "taking it." I'll continue to offer what's on my mind about subjects, just like everyone else does, and take my chances with it being allowed. I'm not trying to incite any riots, I just commented on luv's choice to make a political statement in this forum and the mods choices to allow it. I see little difference.

[KB 34]

Freddy, I understand where you're coming from with the multiple standards argument. There have been some issues with that in the past and they were really enlarged by the political factors involved. However, most of the actions taken have involved editting posts and leaving reminders about proper posting. Suspensions and such have only been used where there is a consistent trend of ridiculousness and no improvement. As a community a certain level of living on the edge has been encouraged. There are plenty of over-moderated sites out there, we're doing our best to be a fun site where the community understands how to have fun talking baseball and sometimes random topics that might stem from a baseball topic. As always send your favorite staff member a PM with any concerns.

[Chris_Moderato]

Well said, KB. Well said. Way to "tell it like it is".

Seems that with Rap's apparent departure, this thread has become obsolete. Therefore...